Pricing for a job need help

[JLHELEC]

Been asked to price for a job, customer is having attic done out so needs a few new circuits up there. Some more context I'm based in South Wales and house is 1950s awkward little.run from the board to up but the new socket's will all be on studs so minimal chasing. I'm so bad at pricing work it literally puts me off taking jobs on. CU is full so I proposed having a new CU dedicated for the loft and going from there.

New CU
X4 socket's one being usb
X2 1 gang 2 way switches
X6 spotlights
X1 optical smoke alarm, to be interlinked with existing smokes, so I gotta dick around with them also.

I was gunna just price materials plus 2 days labour @ day rate but I always feel like iv shafted myself when doing work for day rate as the jobs usually turn out to be -------'s just wondering if any of you lot were in my neck of the woods and interested to see what you'd charge or anyone would charge for that in general

 

[buzzlightyear]

average hourly rate for self employed is about 15p per hour

wow ,15p a hour must be Bangladesh prices asda .

 

[goasis]

Well again I guess it must be down to where you live....if you advertised in this area you'd have to fight them off.

How much can you earn on the cards with a firm there then? Can't be worth it!

 

[Brian Taylor]

How much can you earn on the cards with a firm there then? Can't be worth it!

Last I know about 15.00..dependant upon experiance

 

[goasis]

Last I know about 15.00..dependant upon experiance

So the same as being self employed.... when you've got your own van, expenses, holiday, sick pay, evenings..... somethings not quite adding up here....

 

[Brian Taylor]

So the same as being self employed.... when you've got your own van, expenses, holiday, sick pay, evenings..... somethings not quite adding up here....

Ah well I'm sure your next question is how much do I earn....I will save you the bother of typing....last year my take home pay was a little over £8000.00....now it makes sense?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Ah well I'm sure your next question is how much do I earn....I will save you the bother of typing....last year my take home pay was a little over £8000.00....now it makes sense?

As an electrician ?

 

[goasis]

Ah well I'm sure your next question is how much do I earn....I will save you the bother of typing....last year my take home pay was a little over £8000.00....now it makes sense?

No, im really confused but nevermind!

 

[LukeD]

Ah well I'm sure your next question is how much do I earn....I will save you the bother of typing....last year my take home pay was a little over £8000.00....now it makes sense?

Brian. Something is MORE than wrong .

Few questions !!

1. What sort or work do you do?
2. How many hours per week are you doing ?
3.Have you a expensive van lease etc etc ?
5. Are you travelling miles per day to get to jobs ?


others can throw in questions ! But again, something does not make sense . Biggest saving I made years ago was NOT having a van . Bloody waste of time these days for domestic jobs . Also the chances are they get broken into . And I never ever will lower the price of a quote . pricing cheap to win a job is a fools game .

 

[Electric Magic]

Ah well I'm sure your next question is how much do I earn....I will save you the bother of typing....last year my take home pay was a little over £8000.00....now it makes sense?

If it's really that bad (and a quick Google of electricians in Rainham suggests not, absolute cheapest I could find was £170 a day), why not advertise in London? I occasionally go to North London (from Greater Manchester) to do domestic rewires and make about £500/£600 a day even after taking account of travel time and accommodation.

 

[Brian Taylor]

As an electrician ?

Of course

 

[Dustydazzler]

£8000 as an electrician?

Unless you are working just 1 day a week , you are seriously under pricing

 

[LukeD]

£8000 as an electrician?

Unless you are working just 1 day a week , you are seriously under pricing

Or targeting or been targeted by the wrong customers ?

 

[Brian Taylor]

Or targeting or been targeted by the wrong customers ?

It's what customers will pay..there is very little point in putting in large invoices knowing that you absolutely no chance of getting them paid . I once went to court to recover the cost of a house rewire...I was awarded 50 pence a week by the court until the debt was paid...the customer failed to pay after 3 months..a waste of time

 

[Dustydazzler]

I now take 30% upfront ( when I arrive on site with all the gear ) then 30% after 1st fix and the remaning 40% on completion for re-wires, If they won't agree to these terms I walk on by

 

[goasis]

This has got to be a windup. £8k a year is paper round money. Would barely cover most peoples food shopping

 

[Brian Taylor]

Brian. Something is MORE than wrong .

Few questions !!

1. What sort or work do you do?
2. How many hours per week are you doing ?
3.Have you a expensive van lease etc etc ?
5. Are you travelling miles per day to get to jobs ?


others can throw in questions ! But again, something does not make sense . Biggest saving I made years ago was NOT having a van . Bloody waste of time these days for domestic jobs . Also the chances are they get broken into . And I never ever will lower the price of a quote . pricing cheap to win a job is a fools game .

I'm doing domestic work...sockets switches lights etc...working hours per week is a little difficult as sometimes I have no work on ...but on average I guess about 25 to 30 a week...I have a van but it's mine ..no rent or lease...and yes it has been broken into many times over the years..again milage is unpredictable..can be 2 or 3 miles or maybe 50 to 60 miles .depends on the job.

 

[Brian Taylor]

This has got to be a windup. £8k a year is paper round money. Would barely cover most peoples food shopping

Ah sounds as if you have very expensive paper boys in your area.

 

[Brian Taylor]

I now take 30% upfront ( when I arrive on site with all the gear ) then 30% after 1st fix and the remaning 40% on completion for re-wires, If they won't agree to these terms I walk on by

Yes that's a good idea if the customer agrees....I've found that most prospective customers just fail to contact me if I start asking for cash up front...to much advice from the consumer protection lobby advising people not to pay anything until completely satisfied.

 

[Diddy]

Haha. I hope you honestly are on a wee wind up.
I'm in Canterbury which is south eat Kent and charge between 5 and 6 times what you do...less than 50 miles away. Not a single electrician in my city would work for 15's. Not even Dave from the end of the bar is working for 15's lol.
I mean it's all good if you are happy lol, I am not criticising just kind of "surprised". We clearly do not have the same customer base and for both our point of view that's even better.
But Man you could travel 30 mins from north kent and be in outer smokey and charge 5x easily. 8k per year ? Again im not having a pop but if I was a tax inspector I would be all over your accounts like a demented spider looking for where your hiding the extra lol.

 

[LukeD]

Haha. I hope you honestly are on a wee wind up.
I'm in Canterbury which is south eat Kent and charge between 5 and 6 times what you do...less than 50 miles away. Not a single electrician in my city would work for 15's. Not even Dave from the end of the bar is working for 15's lol.
I mean it's all good if you are happy lol, I am not criticising just kind of "surprised". We clearly do not have the same customer base and for both our point of view that's even better.
But Man you could travel 30 mins from north kent and be in outer smokey and charge 5x easily. 8k per year ? Again im not having a pop but if I was a tax inspector I would be all over your accounts like a demented spider looking for where your hiding the extra lol.

Last bit could really be a issue . No one would believe it