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Electrical Wiring, Theories and Regulations
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Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification
This Section is STRICTLY for testing PROBLEMS which members have occured, misunderstood readings, Periodic Inspection Reporting / Electrical Installation Condition Reports, Mathematical Equations/Solutions, Part P and other legislation which require you to Inspect and Test.
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Wiring, theories, regulations, certification schemes
Wiring Theories Regulations Certification
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A very in depth post. Yes we who are longer in the trade tend to complacency
I found the test meathods covered all the basic tests, except...
Thank you
I'm only mucking about meself , Lastman .
Was there a question?
And a reason for resurrecting an 11 year old thread?
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Welcome @Geraldine you may be better off starting a new thread with more detail as Edd is no longer a forum member.
I must admit that this has really surprised me.I don't have a copy of British regs so I rely on forum members comments to learn about them.But up...
This is a zombie thread. All that matters is that the overcurrent protection for your 1.5mm2 SWA is appropriate for its current carrying capacity...
Oops, sorry! Scrolled back up to where someone mentioned the fuse, but never saw your reply below it.
The problem is with the flex exiting the bottom of the plug. With a flush socket, the flex will exit just above the skirting, which would be fine...
Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the welcome section.
Because there is no connection from the circuit to earth, you...
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He knows. He's just teasing us from above.....😇
I think they are LiVE units.
I personally think today it merits C3. Electricians should and must always outway any decision by improvement & safety. Strive for perfection...
It’s never too late to learn
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ELECSA Certification Scheme A message to all Elecsa registered electricians!! A must read!!
I think language changes all the time. New words are formed, some old words disappear through lack of use.
The term electrician was probably...
Hi
I know this is old thread does anyone have course notes i can borrow to start studying. Thanks.
I=KVA/(√3×KV)
I=(KW/PF)/(√3×KV)
I=(50/0.9)/(√3×0.4)= 80.19 A
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Amen to that. My preferred method since 1998.With the 63 amp main switch in place of the 100 amp (don't have them yet)
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Where can I find the 0.866 figure in the regulations ?
We'll all be answering the same questions in 5 years time when all the rental ones that only got C3 this time round are a C2 - it might be AFDDs...
Sound like fee justification paperwork, is that really the way forward, come across this with the Construction Phase Information put together by...
Thanks thia has helped me also
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Once again thank you Brian.
I must admit to being somewhat confused. The black switch that you told me to exercise was ON when the test button on...
- appspark
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Ok I got all that but if you are in the bathroom there is probably water/ humidity, would that complete the circuit ?!!!
- bluesky
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I wasn't thinking that anyone was taking the mickey, it was just an observation. For example, anyone doing a search for 'Chinese' or 'China' is...
Stroma Certification Scheme has anyone heard of STROMA
bear in mind that it could be a month before the building controll documentation is processed.
This thread is nearly seven years old so best start a new thread here.
https://www.electriciansforums.net/forums/electrical-forum.15/
...and he's got a Ze reading, anyway, unless it's worn away after 10 years. :confused:
- TPES
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I also think the EICR has gone a bit silly, code 4 was removed (not complying with current regulations) and I think that was wrong, but as it...
3990 I recon lol had to pull out tester on day 1 to sho client it existed lol
original post is 10 years old. he's probably got better english by now.
- hawk666
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HI
Thank you for that.
I've had enough situations where problems occur to not want be going there again and normaly isolate the screen at the motor at installation as...
Wow, that's a very old regulation! It was indeed a requirement once upon a time, possibly not since the 13th edition, that installed flexible...
I know that to add this is very late but just in case someone is trying to find out what to do then........LOOKING AT ELECTRICAL REGULATIONS IS...
And an even better instant.
An I.T. company selling recovery solutions sent a dummy bullet to potential customers stating " if you dont have...
EAWR 15, admittedly it would only apply for the contractors and not the homeowner but still.
"Sorry Mrs Miggins but my hobbit apprentice is at...
And leave a potentially damaged cable in service?
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Welcome to the forum! Worth bearing in mind this thread is around 7 years old though.
Hi,
Did you do your 18th at In Phase ?
Thats where mine is booked for in early January.
3 Day thingy.
Vette
Is there a law on meter tails or is there just a recommend length ?
can't wait. post it. :p :p :p
My thought as well. Usually when you have several new spots being fitted it's likely possible that not just the switch wire but also the neutrals...
- DanSwift1988
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It is Aug 2023 and an electrician has failed my EICR with code C2 for non-fire rated kitchen downlights that are located under my own bathroom one...
- Questforknowledge
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Going "Commando" is something completely different !
Richard (love your diagrams). My 'electrician' friend (a DIY-er), said he could help me with a problem but I would like your initial thoughts on...
I think they work with Meggers if you reverse the leads
The reference test temperature is 10 census
When cable is live, worst scenario to see cable temperature increase to 70 census.
The resistance...
- peterdaniels
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From English government
It also gives average price at £155 for an EICR. But I have hunted for some thing saying you must have x qualification...
Not compared the prices, but Flexishiled is pretty good and seems to last. They also do a rodent-resistant versions where the sheath stats of cat...
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If you move house do you take them with you ?
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imagine if you could get to an efficient power source that produces energy and sustains longevity, its not going to happen though anytime soon in...
- Joe9876543210
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Are we suggesting that one should really remove the cpc and test the circuit individually. Otherwise I am still in the dark as to why the parallel...
Regarding EICR C2
I'm not sure 100% but it does state
"Many thanks to John Peckham for authoring this"
A Wayleave but maybe best to start a thread
I have looked for a government site with a copy the the "check list" can't find one. I can find organisations who have published one, but not an...
I am really glad I don't need to investigate testing procedures for SELV,Electrical separation for months on end.
Amongst all the posts,not one...
Draw him a diagram showing how the PME earth will have a mini electrode somewhere.
It’s nuts to get rid of a TN system for this reason. As you say...
I’m glad you brought the regulation up because people are convinced in changing the fixing screws to nylon or putting caps over the heads, which...
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Agree, Its a professional, experienced, technically concluded judgement call. ie Heads C2 Tails C3 ?
I know he was greatly respected but I don't think we should bring resurrection into it........RIP Eng.? !!!
NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC launches bursary to encourage female electricians into the industry
Thanks something I always wanted to know
I'm hoping he may have finished the school job by now :)
He might let you look at it for a tenner
I would hope so, as it was 11 years ago.
Can you take a picture of where it's burning out.
40 years?
That’s only 30 years older than this thread… 😄
- dtec dave
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See above ^^^^ ?
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That's what I put. Thanks ?
Again very interesting photo, s. One thing that strikes me as odd is the conversion of the supply system does not appear to be followed up in an...
The DNO fuse is for overload protection of their network, it is not required to meet the BS7671 regulations on ADS for an installation.
Cat5 is fairly straightforward, I picked it up straightaway. The two ways the connections go is online. All need it crimping tool and the...
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So, does that mean you get the picture?
- Locked
Times up Johnny, thread closed.
Note that the OP is in Germany. It is not clear whether this is a domestic installation, but many homes have a 3-phase supply which will not have...
- imnvsh
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Troll??? more like, a gremlin.
I have gn3 updated to the 18th edition.
I have gn8 which is the 17th edition amendment 3 version.
The 0.05 is mentioned in gn3 not gn8 unless...
- Questforknowledge
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Oh dear, I have the MFT and kitchen worktop, but no codebreaker book, "I am not worthy". apologies to Bill and Ted.
Saved my life!! I've been studying this and could not get to an understanding. Even Chris Kitcher's book.."Practical Guide to Inspection...
- Poll
Just a quip about drinking wine and maintaining balance. Was, nt meant to be offensive
NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC Complaint? Waste of time.
Do you guys have the same assessor every year?
I had my assessment end of last year and when i had my email booking the date, it had someone who...
Thanks for the docs, will add to the reading list.
From what I was aware "smart" battery chargers still only operate around 14/15V max? Not...
- halfbaked
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That’s actually a good shout conduit rarely used these days & the relevant problems not using this, is causing many a problem now.
Who would ever...
yep. 60 years of Benson & hedges finest. what difference is a couple of lungfulls of chip fat smoke,
Old thread, but you’re right.
However the EICR form states that no voids such as attics or under floors have been inspected. Any other...
Perhaps not for the client, but useful to refer to when coming on site as an electrician rectifying, or doing the next EICR. It is handy to know...
Ok I understand fully the calculating side of it my point was to ensure you test it fully as you should and to not just test a little bit and then...
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NAPIT Certification Scheme Joining NAPIT - requirements and questions
All good then, well done mate. ?
I use the comments box or a continuation page for it
Tony, it's a few years later, just reading this but thank you for such a nice explanation
- LukeScotty
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That begs the question - is there a paid app for that , Kerching !
- Lister1987
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What would be the recommended improvement for safety?
- Boat_Boy
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Became mandatory 28 September
Open your eyes and take a good hard look at the electrical industry and you will find it isn't working already, yes we had the NICEIC's defined...
Yeah I just call it all CPC usually working get that cable to there. etc/ I not do many of this full on talk stuff. Defo a what you said DPG as I...
Will do . Just to give you an idea before I do .
First switch , red in com , black and grey 1 & 2
Intermediate upstairs , Greys and blacks ...
- Delboy247
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Forthcoming....
Ready or made available when wanted or needed.
Which for information is never up my way.
Just need to remember to leave the CPC a lot longer than the L and N, but a nice solution.
This may have been the concern of your electrician. The proximity of non-electrical services is a concern when sited close to cables. 528.3 in 17th.
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