Isolate Light to find Live Plug

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• Nov 17, 2016

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gazell72 said:

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Went to isolate light & found this.
This has been rectified.
What further action would you take?

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What conductors are you testing across ??

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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gazell72 said:

I

Went to isolate light & found this.
This has been rectified.
What further action would you take?

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Ah see what you are getting at, could that be an emergency fitting

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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As Pete said is it an em light, seen lots of modular fittings with em packs which have been given dual supplies.

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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Thats a clix type connector (basically a means of isolation of the light by separation of the supply) can you elaborate as to how it was live ?

 

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Barry White

• Nov 17, 2016

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dunno what happeded here please delete or ignore

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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westward10 said:

As Pete said is it an em light, seen lots of modular fittings with em packs which have been given dual supplies.

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The emergency ones are usually coloured red and basicaly are a plug and socket used to isolate the supply. thats the male end it should never be live once unplugged. It is like putting a standard 13A plug on to a live cable so if anyone touches the pins they recieve a shock.
basically its a ceiling rose that you can unplug the light from.

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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mykey said:

The emergency ones are usually coloured red and basicaly are a plug and socket used to isolate the supply. thats the male end it should never be live once unplugged. It is like putting a standard 13A plug on to a live cable so if anyone touches the pins they recieve a shock.
basically its a ceiling rose that you can unplug the light from.

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They normally are red but I have seen modular fittings connected across two circuits, one for the charge supply the other for the normal supply.

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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westward10 said:

They normally are red but I have seen modular fittings connected across two circuits, one for the charge supply the other for the normal supply.

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I have seen allsorts connected up incorrectly and thats what you have seen then that is if they go to one lamp

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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Best turn that circuit off , Someones probable daisy chained the lights and put a click rose at each end of the circuit , or as other have said there could be a permanent live coming from an emergency light supply budged into the light fitting

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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klik rose - Google Search - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=klik+rose&rlz=1C1CHFX_enGB577GB577&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTgIrA_q_QAhVoDsAKHcsqDeAQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=662

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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So in answer to your pole:
No it's not safe to work on, and 2 how do we know anyone should be held to account?

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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Unplug it at the other end.

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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It's been signed off by an Niceic member, so must comply to standards, so should be safe to work on.
This could be their normal standard of work & the same may exist in another building.
Somebody must be accountable.
Plugs & sockets, are listed as methods of safe Isolation.
I go to isolate & find live ends that can be touched, which could easily of come into contact with the ceiling grid.
I could if been thrown off my ladder, injured & electrocuted.
Very close to a Reportable Incident under Riddor, ie legally obliged to report to the HSE!

 

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• Nov 17, 2016

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I don't understand the thread.....

 

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