Smoke coming from electric meter/fuse box area

A14n · Jun 13, 2017

Hi just a question, this morning I noticed a 2 gang socket had no power to it, went to check the fuse box/electric meter in the cupboard... and there was a lot of smoke coming out from somewhere? Its not smoking any more. The 2 way gang socket is completely dead. All other outlets seem fine and not affected.

What would be the problem? Is this an expensive job, still waiting to here back from an electrician.

Thanks

Midwest · Jun 17, 2017

A14n said:
So the cable inside the walls? The only visible cables I can see are all PVC... The cable the cooker is attached to is Grey PVC...

As the others have said, its difficult to tell from this side of a PC screen. As this electrician has not completed the correct certificate for a CU change, amongst other things. I would see if another electrician/company could check this change and advise you accordingly.

You could phone NICEIC on Monday, to verify if this electrician is registered with them. It does appear, from the photos you've posted, not to be a satisfactory situation.

If he is with NICEIC, and things have been incorrectly installed, NICEIC will say that the electrician should be given the opportunity to put things right. Personally, I would not let him back in my house.

Pete999 · Jun 17, 2017

Specialist said:
Agreed, it's a brilliant saying. Talking of Kenny, any idea where he's dissapeared to ?.

Done a Crocodile Dundee I reckon, gone walk about

Specialist · Jun 17, 2017

A14n said:
I've seen under the floor boards before, and they are all grey pvc cables... How did the guy know they are rubber if he hasn't even looked??

OK sorry I'm done with this now, it's already turned into a 10 page farce. You've been given good advice by professional electrician's, your choice whether you take it or not.

Pete999 · Jun 17, 2017

Specialist said:
Unfortunately your right & it's getting worse.

I don't know if you, Andy, or anyone else bothers to check the Profile of posters I don't know, I do, we have all heard and spoken a lot about young inexperienced Electricians, understandable, we, all of us had to learn and gain knowledge from experience, qualifications are a good and necessary thing, the one thing that ticks me off no end, is people who think they are Electricians, but perhaps would be better off doing something else, the descriptions on some of the profiles, "what electrical qualifications do you hold" some people don't bother for one reason or another, but some add things like "all of them" or "enough" makes my blood boil. The only reason I check is to tailor my answers, not to gloat I just feel lucky to have done an Apprenticeship, sorry for the rant Guys and Gals.

A14n · Jun 17, 2017

Thanks for all your advice guys, much appreciated. I'll contact NICEIC and see if theses guys are legit.

Specialist · Jun 17, 2017

Pete999 said:
I don't know if you, Andy, or anyone else bothers to check the Profile of posters I don't know, I do, we have all heard and spoken a lot about young inexperienced Electricians, understandable, we, all of us had to learn and gain knowledge from experience, qualifications are a good and necessary thing, the one thing that ticks me off no end, is people who think they are Electricians, but perhaps would be better off doing something else, the descriptions on some of the profiles, "what electrical qualifications do you hold" some people don't bother for one reason or another, but some add things like "all of them" or "enough" makes my blood boil. The only reason I check is to tailor my answers, not to gloat I just feel lucky to have done an Apprenticeship, sorry for the rant Guys and Gals.

I do sometimes check them yes Pete, but then I think why bother. I could alter my profile to say I had a Degree instead of C & G etc & no one would actually know the difference.

Actually: Thanks Pete, you just reminded me. I haven't seen my folder since we moved here.

Midwest · Jun 17, 2017

A14n said:
Thanks for all your advice guys, much appreciated. I'll contact NICEIC and see if theses guys are legit.

.....photo of the consumer unit with hinge lid up...

A14n · Jun 17, 2017

Midwest said:
.....photo of the consumer unit with hinge lid up...

[ElectriciansForums.net] Smoke coming from electric meter/fuse box area

Specialist · Jun 17, 2017

Oh dear, thought so

Midwest · Jun 17, 2017

Another departure from the wiring regs OP. There should be two RCD's to give division of installation. Something easily achieved.

I would recommend you have this CU change and the remainder of the installation checked by another electrician/company.

Let us know what NICEIC say.

Rpa07 · Jun 17, 2017

Talk about icing on the cake - no one expected that!

A14n said:
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davesparks · Jun 17, 2017

A14n said:
So the cable inside the walls? The only visible cables I can see are all PVC... The cable the cooker is attached to is Grey PVC...

In the past cables have been manufactured with rubber insulation and grey sheath, the sheath wasn't always PVC either.

How do you expect us to know where he saw these cables? Why don't you just ask him?

Midwest · Jun 17, 2017

You should of had something like this;

or a CU populated with RCBO's.
Edit; The MCB's have been omitted for clarity

A14n · Jun 17, 2017

Midwest said:
You should of had something like this;

or a CU populated with RCBO's.
Edit; The MCB's have been omitted for clarity

Well I have no idea what it looks like on the inside. I'm not opening it.

So I have an excessive amount of switches?

A14n · Jun 17, 2017

davesparks said:
In the past cables have been manufactured with rubber insulation and grey sheath, the sheath wasn't always PVC either.

How do you expect us to know where he saw these cables? Why don't you just ask him?

Calm down dude. Was just asking... I'm not an electrician I know nothing. Seems the "electrician" knows nothing either. I'll see what niceic have to say.

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