Insult or compliment?

gccs · Jul 17, 2017

Just had a 'heated' debate with an MEP contractor on the phone who is doing first fix for a job we're on. (We're doing the controls, av, security etc)

I told him to make sure that his team label all the cables as per my spec, every cable, each end!

He told me I was being ----, and I'm not sure if I should take that as in insult on a compliment. I've got over 500 sections of cable going in on this job, some for the network, some for controls comms, some AV some for DALI, CCTV, Security and so on...... I just want them all labelled...... (which I do on all of our jobs, even when we're doing 1st fix).

Your thoughts?

Lou · Jul 17, 2017

I am not an electrician, but to me that makes sense.

I wouldn't take being called ---- as a compliment but I suppose it depends on his tone! He may be miffed he has got to do something extra..

gccs · Jul 17, 2017

This is the 3rd MEP contractor on-site, the others have been booted off for being numpties. Perhaps next time the main contractor will use us for 1st fix too....

westward10 · Jul 17, 2017

If he labels them then maybe a compliment but I would still say he has insulted you.

gccs · Jul 17, 2017

He couldn't understand the fact that some of the sensors and switches are wired with Cat7, on a star wired bus, so some devices have got 5 cables going to/from them off to other devices or back to the bus. I tried to tell him if a device or set of devices aren't working, I need to know which cable specifically to investigate. Similar with the DALI bus wiring for the lighting.

telectrix · Jul 17, 2017

think someone who has not got the intelligence to use a sharpie should not be saying anything about you apart from :

snowhead · Jul 17, 2017

Given the conversation so far, I wouldn't trust that the cables were marked correctly.
If they don't undestand the reasons for marking, they're not going to be too bothered if it's correct or not.

gccs · Jul 17, 2017

snowhead said:
Given the conversation so far, I wouldn't trust that the cables were marked correctly.
If they don't undestand the reasons for marking, they're not going to be too bothered if it's correct or not.

I thought exactly that, so I think I'm going to send the local PM down for a day and test a big sample with a long lead.

Marti · Jul 17, 2017

Newbie so here my tu'penny worth. Been in enough server rooms late at night (previous career) to know when you find a well laid out and labeled cabinet you offer a silent "thank you" to whomever did that so you can fix the issue and go home. If you can't see the point of labels you should probably have a shovel- not snips- in your hand.

GMES · Jul 17, 2017

Imo a good electrician will always think of the next person that may need to follow them in the future.
As for labelling I must be ---- as well. Hell I even have a label on my labeller to say it's my labeller.

telectrix · Jul 17, 2017

GMES said:
Imo a good electrician will always think of the next person that may need to follow them in the future.
As for labelling I must be ---- as well. Hell I even have a label on my labeller to say it's my labeller.

bananas on a labeller. i must tell brother.

Andy78 · Jul 17, 2017

I think he thought he was insulting you, but I'd take that as an indicator of his lack of diligence rather than a sign of your over fastidiousness.
Labelling is very important in our job.

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Marti · Jul 17, 2017

Or even....

[ElectriciansForums.net] Insult or compliment?

Strima · Jul 17, 2017

Due to no cables being labelled and one of our sparks rushing in and not checking the cables he ended up taking out rather a large chunk of a data network for a couple of days.

I'm not saying who the customer was but if your internet was out up north all I can do is apologise to you and a couple of million other users...

paul291277 · Jul 17, 2017

Marti said:
Or even....View attachment 37382

IPv4 is so last season

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