Chandelier wiring, 5 bulbs with blue and brown wiring HELP.

Chandelier light · Nov 17, 2021

Hello everyone, I need your help with rewiring this chandelier. It has 5 bulb insures as seen from first pic and it’s wires blue and brown wires on the rear.

Any ideas how to rewire them all together so I can have it installed as my ceiling light.

I’d really appreciate the help, don’t want to add to land fill when this still has lots of life.

brianmoooore · Nov 17, 2021

Looks like a job for a couple of 6 way Wagos.' I don't think a 6 way lever type exists, so it'll have to be push in.
Worryingly, I can't see any earth connection on that fitting.

HappyHippyDad · Nov 17, 2021

£75 for an electrician to fit, and test, and warranty, and make safe. Might be worth it ?

edit..

Oops, you're in London, maybe more than that!

littlespark · Nov 17, 2021

Chandelier light said:
I’d really appreciate the help, don’t want to add to land fill when this still has lots of life.

It’s metal.
Recyclable.

Your local council recycling centre should have a bin for waste electrical items.

DPG · Nov 17, 2021

Looks 2nd hand to me. Has someone nicked the connector?

brianmoooore · Nov 17, 2021

Almost certainly far better quality than the offerings from the sheds, John Lewis, etc., that we're asked to fit nowadays!

Chandelier light · Nov 17, 2021

brianmoooore said:
Looks like a job for a couple of 6 way Wagos.' I don't think a 6 way lever type exists, so it'll have to be push in.
Worryingly, I can't see any earth connection on that fitting.

Thanks, yeah its an old piece about 20 years old, was in the basement for a while.
I don't have any wagos but have some block connectors hofefully they should do the job.

Chandelier light · Nov 17, 2021

littlespark said:
It’s metal.
Recyclable.

Your local council recycling centre should have a bin for waste electrical items.

its an amazing piece though, has some seashell shaped glass fitting that give it a unique look.
ill definitely post the finished product if you'd like.

Chandelier light · Nov 17, 2021

DPG said:
Looks 2nd hand to me. Has someone nicked the connector?

was reused years ago.

littlespark · Nov 17, 2021

2 things that really stick out from the photographs.

As mentioned above, there doesn't seem to be an earth tag on it. This is the most important safety feature of a metal light fitting, and must be included somehow.

Secondly, it appears the brown and blue from each lampholder has been twisted together... i see no reason why that has been done, so i really think it needs tested properly before putting it up in case there's been some imaginative rewiring done to it in the past.

Otherwise, its just all the browns together with the brown (or red) in the ceiling, and likewise with the blues (or black). There seems to be plenty room above the fitting to place the connectors.

brianmoooore · Nov 17, 2021

For the very important earth connection, a large ring terminal, with a green/yellow wire attached would be the best way to go. Fit the ring terminal under one of the nuts that holds a lamp stalk to the base.

brianmoooore · Nov 17, 2021

A fitting of this age would be expected to have red and black flexibles to the lamps. I suspect that it has been rewired, but not used since. This would explain the brown and blue pairs twisted together to push them through the tubes.

David Prosser · Nov 17, 2021

I think flex was brown and blue for long time before it was adopted for as fixed wiring colours.

brianmoooore said:
A fitting of this age would be expected to have red and black flexibles to the lamps. I suspect that it has been rewired, but not used since. This would explain the brown and blue pairs twisted together to push them through the tubes.

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