Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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nicebutdim · Dec 2, 2021

Intoelectrics said:
Seen this many times, quickest solution is to turn the socket upside down, on some single back boxes with the 4 fixing points you can turn the socket sideways, not pretty but a temporary fix till the socket position can be altered.

Plenty of ways to sort the issue, but I mentioned it because it's hard to understand how someone might ever have thought it was a good idea.

timhoward · Dec 6, 2021

Hmm, I think I'd better change those tails.

baldelectrician · Dec 6, 2021

Did a wiring check last Monday where the landlord and his dad 'did all the work'

The father (now 80 year old) told me he had 2 EICR's before that passed.
I told him- that's great, can I get a copy of the EICR for reference in my report
Next line- 'Oh my son has moved house, I think they will be lost'

Nice taped joint here with the added bonus of the casing not secured to the pump.

The old guy got cheeky with the lad who stays there (the tenant's son) because he pointed out the eaves where the additional consumer unit is because he did not want me 'finding things'

Properties like this are the reason EICR's were made mandatory for rentals

Raptor0014 · Dec 6, 2021

Not as dodgy as the last abomination posted.

But I went to do an EICR today and found this class installation of a shower. I particularly like how they have allowed the conductor some space to help heat dissipation.

littlespark · Dec 6, 2021

Is that in a particularly damp area?
Earth bar screws look corroded somewhat

DPG · Dec 6, 2021

baldelectrician said:
Did a wiring check last Monday where the landlord and his dad 'did all the work'
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The father (now 80 year old) told me he had 2 EICR's before that passed.
I told him- that's great, can I get a copy of the EICR for reference in my report
Next line- 'Oh my son has moved house, I think they will be lost'
View attachment 92688

Nice taped joint here with the added bonus of the casing not secured to the pump.

The old guy got cheeky with the lad who stays there (the tenant's son) because he pointed out the eaves where the additional consumer unit is because he did not want me 'finding things'

Properties like this are the reason EICR's were made mandatory for rentals

Very thorough network system though by the looks of it.

nicebutdim · Dec 6, 2021

Raptor0014 said:
Not as dodgy as the last abomination posted.

But I went to do an EICR today and found this class installation of a shower. I particularly like how they have allowed the conductor some space to help heat dissipation.

View attachment 92694

It's not every electrician that can think of such innovative measures.

Raptor0014 · Dec 6, 2021

littlespark said:
Is that in a particularly damp area?
Earth bar screws look corroded somewhat

It’s in a front porch.

Mike Johnson · Dec 6, 2021

littlespark said:
Is that in a particularly damp area?
Earth bar screws look corroded somewhat

Agree all the exposed copper looks tarnished and the 15A on the left of the 40A looks to not have an original terminals screw.

buzzlightyear · Dec 6, 2021

Mike Johnson said:
Agree all the exposed copper looks tarnished and the 15A on the left of the 40A looks to not have an original terminals screw.

Not has the job I went to day, where was the back box for the two sockets it disintegrated hang off the wall was the socket face front,damp had eaten it away.

littlespark · Dec 10, 2021

Right…. Who wants to start off with this? Typical farmers installation. Just a single phase supply for a number of sheds and stables.
Main fuse isn’t even fixed? Just floating in mid air. No RCD in sight and bare, uninsulated earth wires.

DPG · Dec 10, 2021

Bet it was good originally, look at the tubing.

What size are those red and blacks straight out of the meter??

timhoward · Dec 10, 2021

It looks as though the middle two N connections at the meter are the opposite was around to normal, somewhat adding to the confusion.
From left to right at meter I think we have supply L, load N, supply N, load L.
Is there any main earthing going to the switched fuses on the left?

littlespark · Dec 10, 2021

timhoward said:
It looks as though the middle two N connections at the meter are the opposite was around to normal, somewhat adding to the confusion.
From left to right at meter I think we have supply L, load N, supply N, load L.
Is there any main earthing going to the switched fuses on the left?

Yes… main earthing is just bare copper, hidden behind the red and blacks.

Simon47 · Dec 10, 2021

As farm installations go, that looks pretty tidy and safe

As to main fuse, can't see how it's moved given the way the cables lie and all the seals are in place.

MJPD29 · Dec 10, 2021

Looks like it was originally a lovely install with the steel conduit that became a mess over the years with additions

SparkySy · Dec 10, 2021

Got to love a farm job, some of them just amaze and confuse for a few minutes until you get your head round what is actually going on!

This is a 1940ish mill that is split phase 480v, it was put in second hand here in 1967 and worked till 2002 when the original hand operated panel packed up and was replaced with this brook and worked up until this morning now won't run! Panel is as I found it, yes without the lid. Lad was using a plastic pipe to press the start button!

brianmoooore · Dec 10, 2021

littlespark said:
Main fuse isn’t even fixed? Just floating in mid air.

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Main fuse is grey plastic. That suggests to me that it is much newer than the rest of the installation.
Bodge by DNO engineer, wanting to get home early?

brianmoooore · Dec 10, 2021

Love the last few pics. If I'd carried a camera with me over the last three decades, i could have posted dozens like that and worse. Not at all unusual to find starters with missing covers and dedicated pieces of plastic pipe or a screwdriver alongside them for pushing the buttons, or even wooden wedges for holding contactors with dud control circuits in the 'on' position.

Mike Johnson · Dec 10, 2021

I do like the insulated back box.

brianmoooore · Dec 10, 2021

Installed many of those Bentall (?) roller mills over the years. Learnt that to increase reliability, it was a good idea to remove all starter gear from the mill, and, in the case of single phase motors, the start/run capacitors as well, and mount it all on a nearby wall. The vibration from these things, especially when the rollers get pitted, would shake contactors to pieces and wear through the cans of capacitors.

SparkySy · Dec 10, 2021

@brianmoooore I have soo many pictures like this from the last 20 or so years I'm glad of cloud storage!

Yes the wooden wedge bodge, I've come across that a few times. The last one was on an old floor scrape system and was swapped between the forward & reverse contactors when it got to the end of the scrape.
amazingly the capacitors apart from being shot were in surprisingly good condition, they were wrapped in a pink sleeve of some description and the inside of the metal case was rubber with cardboard around the caps (the cardboard had 2/2/40 written on it.) I need to find some new caps and a contactor to get it going again!

Mike Johnson · Dec 10, 2021

I bought a new handle for the boot carpet cover on my car, the thing arrived OK, but the springs and screws where missing, I contacted the seller and they came back with this: "We are sorry to hear you have a problem, can you please send a clear picture of the item" how can you send a picture of an item that is missing

answers on a postcard please.

pirate · Dec 12, 2021

I only link this video here because it highlights the awful state of electrics in other countries...I mean, those cables crossing the street> Plus, the string of lamps in the bar...what were they thinking? They are clearly dodgy!
Like minded electricians have obviously been watching this, hence it has more than 7 billion views...7 BILLION! Nick Bundy, eat your heart out!

pirate · Dec 12, 2021

I mean, honestly, those festoon lights are a hazard, and likely to be a problem with premature failure in the event of fire...the cable could just collapse!

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