Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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timhoward · Mar 14, 2022

westward10 said:
This is wood dust.View attachment 96056

So....leaf-blower or Henry?

SparkySy · Mar 14, 2022

I bet there was more in there until you removed the cover and it snowed it everywhere

Sure I've posted this before. This one was full to the very top of chaff and mice bedding, only after removing it was the damage they had done revealed! I had the cavity wall insulation one a few times, its a right mess to clean up!

westward10 · Mar 14, 2022

timhoward said:
So....leaf-blower or Henry?

It was in a wood mill extraction booth maintenance didn't know it was there, you couldn't actually see it due to a dust mountain it was the trunking that gave it away.

Dartlec · Mar 15, 2022

Welchyboy1 said:
Thought this EICR was going to be a breeze today…was told before I arrived the systems all been upgraded to the latest regs, new steel cu, all rcbos, apparently done in 2017 by an NIC AC
surely this isn’t the work of someone who actually gives a s#&t!

(I added the blanks by the way)

No certs available though lol that would of been interesting

Who makes Reco? rebranded something I assume - looks like they took inspiration from MK (Though to be fair the new MK stuff seems to have fixed the lean)

Welchyboy1 · Mar 15, 2022

Dartlec said:
Who makes Reco? rebranded something I assume - looks like they took inspiration from MK (Though to be fair the new MK stuff seems to have fixed the lean)

Never seen that brand before tbh

though looks similar gear to CED boards by Toolstation rebrand as you said

cant believe he’s used additional CU internal neutral conductors to extend the rcbo neutrals how would they be too short ???

looking forward to ripping that lot out and rewiring

timhoward · Mar 16, 2022

Not so much the high number of connections crammed into a box which is bad enough, but the entire circuit concept...
This is next to the CU on one side:

The other side of CU is a DIN rail timer:

Connections are CU to the joint box. Joint box uninterrupted back through CU to timer. timer back through CU again to joint box using 3 core flex with brown sleeving on all three (naughty!). Then off to three outside lighting circuits.

The circuit feeding it all was showing 0.07 Mohms IR L+N to E so I'll be starting again.
I also found the timer is linked out anyway!

littlespark · Mar 16, 2022

G/y core as a live conductor?? Tut tut

Deleted account · Mar 16, 2022

littlespark said:
G/y core as a live conductor?? Tut tut

I don’t like it and wouldn’t also, but I have been informed this is acceptable if it’s sleaved.

Dustydazzler · Mar 16, 2022

Only filthy animals and plumbers use the Cpc as a Phase conductor

pc1966 · Mar 16, 2022

Paignton pete said:
I don’t like it and wouldn’t also, but I have been informed this is acceptable if it’s sleaved.

I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

Deleted account · Mar 16, 2022

pc1966 said:
I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

Only repeating what I was told.
but never done it as yes as far as I’m concerned cpc is cpc.

Mike Johnson · Mar 16, 2022

Also in the European Regulations that G/Y is exclusively for "Earth/protective conductor" only, I think we are alone calling CPC, but could be wrong.

pc1966 · Mar 16, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
Also in the European Regulations that G/Y is exclusively for "Earth/protective conductor" only, I think we are alone calling CPC, but could be wrong.

Most folks call it an earth (ground) wire. It is just the likes of here you would make the distinction between the connection from external means of earthing to the MET, and the protective connector from the MET onwards.

David Prosser · Mar 16, 2022

pc1966 said:
I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

Just playing devils advocate as there is no way I would allow it, but once it’s sleeved surely the original colour of the insulation is ignored. Just as blue and black (grey and yellow) could be live or neutral once it’s sleeved it becomes the colour of its sleeve not its original insulation.

Table 51. Green and Yellow for the protective conductor is no different to neutral of single or three phase circuit being designated blue.

littlespark · Mar 16, 2022

I read the regs as g/y only to be used as cpc/ ground/ earth… whatever you want to call it.
It shouldn’t be used as a live conductor under any circumstance, whether it’s sleeved or not.

It’s bad planning if you end up being a core short for your heating controls, extractor fan or PIR sensor.

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