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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[timhoward]

This is wood dust.View attachment 96056

So....leaf-blower or Henry?

 

[SparkySy]

I bet there was more in there until you removed the cover and it snowed it everywhere
Sure I've posted this before. This one was full to the very top of chaff and mice bedding, only after removing it was the damage they had done revealed! I had the cavity wall insulation one a few times, its a right mess to clean up!

 

[westward10]

So....leaf-blower or Henry?

It was in a wood mill extraction booth maintenance didn't know it was there, you couldn't actually see it due to a dust mountain it was the trunking that gave it away.

 

[Dartlec]

Thought this EICR was going to be a breeze today…was told before I arrived the systems all been upgraded to the latest regs, new steel cu, all rcbos, apparently done in 2017 by an NIC AC
surely this isn’t the work of someone who actually gives a s#&t!

(I added the blanks by the way)

No certs available though lol that would of been interesting

Who makes Reco? rebranded something I assume - looks like they took inspiration from MK (Though to be fair the new MK stuff seems to have fixed the lean)

 

[Welchyboy1]

Who makes Reco? rebranded something I assume - looks like they took inspiration from MK (Though to be fair the new MK stuff seems to have fixed the lean)

Never seen that brand before tbh

though looks similar gear to CED boards by Toolstation rebrand as you said

cant believe he’s used additional CU internal neutral conductors to extend the rcbo neutrals how would they be too short ???

looking forward to ripping that lot out and rewiring

 

[timhoward]

Not so much the high number of connections crammed into a box which is bad enough, but the entire circuit concept...
This is next to the CU on one side:

The other side of CU is a DIN rail timer:

Connections are CU to the joint box. Joint box uninterrupted back through CU to timer. timer back through CU again to joint box using 3 core flex with brown sleeving on all three (naughty!). Then off to three outside lighting circuits.

The circuit feeding it all was showing 0.07 Mohms IR L+N to E so I'll be starting again.
I also found the timer is linked out anyway!

 

[littlespark]

G/y core as a live conductor?? Tut tut

 

[Deleted account]

G/y core as a live conductor?? Tut tut

I don’t like it and wouldn’t also, but I have been informed this is acceptable if it’s sleaved.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Only filthy animals and plumbers use the Cpc as a Phase conductor

 

[pc1966]

I don’t like it and wouldn’t also, but I have been informed this is acceptable if it’s sleaved.

I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

 

[Deleted account]

I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

Only repeating what I was told.
but never done it as yes as far as I’m concerned cpc is cpc.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Also in the European Regulations that G/Y is exclusively for "Earth/protective conductor" only, I think we are alone calling CPC, but could be wrong.

 

[pc1966]

Also in the European Regulations that G/Y is exclusively for "Earth/protective conductor" only, I think we are alone calling CPC, but could be wrong.

Most folks call it an earth (ground) wire. It is just the likes of here you would make the distinction between the connection from external means of earthing to the MET, and the protective connector from the MET onwards.

 

[ChipFanDave]

I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

Just playing devils advocate as there is no way I would allow it, but once it’s sleeved surely the original colour of the insulation is ignored. Just as blue and black (grey and yellow) could be live or neutral once it’s sleeved it becomes the colour of its sleeve not its original insulation.

Table 51. Green and Yellow for the protective conductor is no different to neutral of single or three phase circuit being designated blue.

 

[littlespark]

I read the regs as g/y only to be used as cpc/ ground/ earth… whatever you want to call it.
It shouldn’t be used as a live conductor under any circumstance, whether it’s sleeved or not.

It’s bad planning if you end up being a core short for your heating controls, extractor fan or PIR sensor.