Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Mike Johnson · Mar 24, 2022

Take the cabinet off the wall and make a hole as big as you like in the wall to find the cable, but do take your one coat with you.

pc1966 · Mar 24, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
Looks like the cable drops down behind the cabinet, may be able to access it from the space behind and do a decent repair.

I was wondering if the cabinet could come off, a joint in wall behind it (where damaged tiles not seen), and somehow bore up/down to get new cables in while avoiding trashing the tiles shown in the photo?

timhoward · Mar 24, 2022

timhoward said:
A neat multi-tool access square in the back of the cabinet, and change where they keep the cereal?!
Worth checking if cabinet will unhook easily too.

I wonder if anyone's ever used an Armeg board hole cutter in the back of a cabinet....!

Raptor0014 · Mar 24, 2022

DPG said:
Ideal inline splice maybe?

I tried to get one of those on. Hoping I could push it up enough to get a decent grip. But the broken bit is too short.

Raptor0014 · Mar 24, 2022

Steve T said:
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Nice professionally made off downlight joint. Couldn't even be bothered to wrap the insulation tape the whole way, and the state of that neutral flex termination.

I had a similar one for a pendant. Just shoved into the ceiling like that.

Mike Johnson · Mar 24, 2022

What else are choc blocks for.

marconi · Mar 24, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
What should have been a simple job is going to be a lot more involved.

Tiled walls and the CPC of one leg of the ring is broken in the kitchen in such a way that it can’t be fixed easily. Oh and the whole house is on one ring.

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Could you make a connection like this using some stranded flexible wire, protect the live conductors while you solder with a powerful iron. Obviously you would use insulated green yellow 1.5mm2 cpc from a flex cable but I could only find brown. I find I can form the wrap on a test piece of 1.5mm2 and then slide off and on to conductor to be extended.

nicebutdim · Mar 24, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
I tried to get one of those on. Hoping I could push it up enough to get a decent grip. But the broken bit is too short.

Where do you find all these jobs? At this rate, you're going to need a thread of your own.

timhoward · Mar 24, 2022

You’d assume (or I did anyway) the singles were the ring and the other crazy things are later additions.
It turns out the 3core 1mm is the outgoing ring and runs half the length of the building!
Also the cut T+E was run in parallel to the next socket and the other end end was still connected.
It seems someone then started a rewire and gave up, the blue coiled single is a draw wire.
I’ve given up trying to work out what dark series of events led to this spaghetti.

Everything out then!

Raptor0014 · Mar 24, 2022

nicebutdim said:
Where do you find all these jobs? At this rate, you're going to need a thread of your own.

I’m in Shropshire.

I don’t post half the stuff I find. There is quite a bit of bodged jobs out there.

Dustydazzler · Mar 24, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
What else are choc blocks for.

Yep

If you drop down a fancy light fitting , then 99% of the time you will find choc block connections and shoved up the hole

Sometimes even with a twist of two of masking tape

Dustydazzler · Mar 24, 2022

timhoward said:
You’d assume (or I did anyway) the singles were the ring and the other crazy things are later additions.
It turns out the 3core 1mm is the outgoing ring and runs half the length of the building!
Also the cut T+E was run in parallel to the next socket and the other end end was still connected.
It seems someone then started a rewire and gave up, the blue coiled single is a draw wire.
I’ve given up trying to work out what dark series of events led to this spaghetti.
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Everything out then!

I have recently come across quite a lot of 3c and earth used for sockets , I often wonder if the sparks picked up the wrong drum of cable and didn't realise until it was too late

ipf · Mar 24, 2022

Brand new de Walt packed up after hardly any use today. A bit miffed, to say the least. Working outside, so I asked if there was a decent length extension lead on site so I could use a mains alternative. He brought me this.
Someone's got a bit wound up, it seems!!!!

littlespark · Mar 24, 2022

ipf said:
Brand new de Walt packed up after hardly any use today. A bit miffed, to say the least. Working outside, so I asked if there was a decent length extension lead on sit o I could use the mains alternative.
Someone's got a bit wound

Mine did that!
6 holes drill with a flat speed it, and the thing went up in a puff of smoke.

Luckily was well within its warranty period… (hardly 3 hours old!) and Screwfix replaced it straight away.

ipf · Mar 24, 2022

littlespark said:
Mine did that!
6 holes drill with a flat speed it, and the thing went up in a puff of smoke.

Luckily was well within its warranty period… (hardly 3 hours old!) and Screwfix replaced it straight away.

Picked it up at the deWalt stand at the Elex show at Bolton, 3 weeks back.
No smoke........but no fire either. Press the trigger and the led light flashes once and that's it. Get the old un back out for tomorrow...

Went for one with a 4Ah battery....some good.

freddo · Mar 24, 2022

James said:
edit.
the blue is actually a N so I presume the same person has connected both ends.

The outgoing circuit isn't much better! It can't be that hard to match the colours together!

Mike Johnson · Mar 24, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Yep

If you drop down a fancy light fitting , then 99% of the time you will find choc block connections and shoved up the hole

Sometimes even with a twist of two of masking tape

So what did we use before Wago's

ipf · Mar 24, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
So what did we use before Wago's

Ashley J201 and flex, for me.

Raptor0014 · Mar 25, 2022

I’m darn sarf this weekend doing a board change and EV charger install. Client wanted the board changing as there were no spare ways for the charger, no surge protection, no room for a smaller CU next to it and can’t have an external CU as the cutout is below the board.

Apart from this board being in a ridiculous place at the top of a larder unit above the false ceiling. I do like how whoever put this in thought it prudent to run one leg of a kitchen ring circuit through the board. The mind boggles as to why.

But at least they used intumescent grommets.

Dustydazzler · Mar 26, 2022

See , if that was a plastic consumers unit you could whack it was a hammer and remove the board in 2 sections leaving the cable intact. Now you have to disconnect the cable or cut and join it.

Blooming metal boards , bring back plastic I say

Mike Johnson · Mar 26, 2022

Decent pair of tin snips will sort that or a metal blade in a multitool, to cut the CU not the cable.

telectrix · Mar 27, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
Decent pair of tin snips will sort that or a metal blade in a multitool, to cut the CU not the cable.

multitool will take ages on steel. use an angle grinder.

DPG · Mar 27, 2022

I'd go with tin snips up to the grommet hole, and then bend the metal down.

SparkySy · Mar 27, 2022

telectrix said:
multitool will take ages on steel. use an angle grinder.

And be really really noisy too!

Dustydazzler · Mar 27, 2022

As above , just mangle the grommet hole with some sharp tins snips then bash the ---- out of it to bend the cut ends down out the way

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