Putting a chandlier up

shocksl · May 4, 2023

Hi guys

I need to put a chandlier in my siblings house.

I've taken the old one off. As you can see in the pic.

To put the bracket on do I just make holes in the ceiling white bit.. Or do I need to rip white bit off as the previous bracket was too small and the hole you can see is too small .

Also what kind of drill bit shall I use to make the hole?

Please advice.

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loz2754 · May 4, 2023

The bracket should be placed on the underside of the white painted ceiling.
40mm woodscrews should be screwed into any solid wood part of the ceiling.
This should be enough for a light weight light.
Anything really heavy should really be fitted by a professional.

Rockingit · May 4, 2023

Depends entirely on the fixing bracket that's supplied but generally speaking it looks likely that the standard style saddle bracket will span that hole and cover it over when the base gets screwed on - so you'd want to use a couple of decent sized self-tap woodscrews to screw straight into the joist, no drill required.

JBW175 · May 4, 2023

What’s the bracket look like? You should be able to secure it straight into that joist for a good solid fix.

loz2754 · May 4, 2023

The wood seen in the photo is not a joist, but a piece of wood lath. There may be a joist above.

JBW175 · May 4, 2023

loz2754 said:
The wood seen in the photo is not a joist, but a piece of wood lath. There may be a joist above.

Good spot.

shocksl · May 4, 2023

JBW175 said:
What’s the bracket look like? You should be able to secure it straight into that joist for a good solid fix.

The hole in the ceiling is too small to get to the wood bit...so I'll have to either drill on the white ceiling.

Or I have to make the hole bigger.

Which one will be best to do ?

shocksl · May 4, 2023

loz2754 said:
The wood seen in the photo is not a joist, but a piece of wood lath. There may be a joist above.

This is the wood.

Is I need to cu into the white bit to make the hole bigger.

Which side would it be better ro start cutting through ?

loz2754 · May 4, 2023

You don't need to make the hole bigger. The bracket should span across the hole.

shocksl · May 4, 2023

loz2754 said:
You don't need to make the hole bigger. The bracket should span across the hole.

The longest width of the hole is 2.5 inches.

The shortest holes distance in the bracket is 3.5 inches.

Unless I should make another hole close jn the bracket. So it's 2.5 inches

loz2754 said:
You don't need to make the hole bigger. The bracket should span across the hole.

Dave OCD · May 4, 2023

It really couldn't be simpler, position the bracket with the middle in line with the cable hole but offset so that the fixing holes are under the centre of the visible wood and screw it up until tight and secure. The screws themselves will cut through the plaster as you drive them up into the timber.

shocksl · May 4, 2023

Dave OCD said:
It really couldn't be simpler, position the bracket with the middle in line with the cable hole but offset so that the fixing holes are under the centre of the visible wood and screw it up until tight and secure.

Thank you mage. But the bracket is wider than the hole.

Also the distance between ghe fixing holes are 3.5.

The hole in the dealing is only 2.5 inches.

Dave OCD · May 4, 2023

You fit the bracket on the ceiling NEXT to the hole, the bracket is then on the ceiling and when the fitting is connected the base covers the hole when fixed to the bracket.

shocksl · May 4, 2023

Dave OCD said:
You fit the bracket on the ceiling NEXT to the hole, the bracket is then on the ceiling and when the fitting is connected the base covers the hole when fixed to the bracket.

Ywah mate that makes sense . But what I'm saying is that the holes in the bracket is wider than the hole in the ceiling. So therefore the white bit of the ceiling may need widening.... other wise I won't be able to screw in the wood.

Or alternatively I can make a new hole in the metal bracket to make the gap closer between the foxing holes..in order to not having to cut the white bit of the ceiling... Did that make sense ?

Dave OCD · May 4, 2023

I'm afraid you're not quite getting it, just screw through the ceiling into the wood, the screw will make the hole as you turn it with a little bit of pressure. if the bracket isn't on the ceiling surface but behind it it would be impossible to fix the light to the bracket.

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