Earthing the Array - Practically

Worcester · May 24, 2011

Don't want to get into a discussion here about when to earth the array or not.

Lets' assume it MUST be earthed.

How are people doing it?

1) Attaching an earth strap (braid or cable?) between each panel and the rail (one or both?), then joining all the rails together (parallel), and then a single earth.

2) Joining the rails together in parallel then a single earth (And making the assumption that the panels mounts will earth the panels to the rails)?

Or:
3) Make the assumption that the panels and panel mounts will join all the rails and panels together and attaching a single earth cable to one rail?

4) Any other way

5) What do you think should be Best Practice?

Thx

BruceB · May 24, 2011

I have only earthed one. I went for your option 3. I used a couple of external grade earth clamps linked together that fitted around one of the main rails.

My reasoning was that the metal/metal joints will provide good enough contact. I am in two minds though because of the aluminium oxidation issue and the disimilar metals issue. I'll go back after one year (its a standard thing I intend to do) to see what it looks like.

I think there is a good argument that goes along the lines of better protection against electric shock would be provided by a big notice saying do not touch the array if you are standing on a metal ladder touching the ground, rather than expecting scores of electrical bonding connections to panels and rails to keep working after n years.

Regards
Bruce

malcolmsanford · May 24, 2011

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dansk · May 24, 2011

Single wire to rail - and use the panels as interconnections since these are firmly clamped in - Its not different to using the socket screws to bond the metel back box on a socket outlet.

Worcester · May 24, 2011

Thanks for your thoughts, let's keep this going for a while, because we're hovering between 1 and 2 !

Good old Sharp's installtion manual says:

GROUNDING
All PV modules must be grounded by electrical connection of the module frames to ground. Please be careful in arranging the system ground so that the removal of one module from the circuit will not interrupt the grounding of any other modules. The modules should be grounded to the same electrical point as described below. Each PV module has a hole on the side frame for either a bolt, nut and washer grounding the module to the frame, a ground lug fastened by bolt or screw, or appropriate screw (hardware not provided). An example of acceptable ground connection using a bolt, nut and washer retaining a ground lug is shown in figure 3. In a connection of this type, the hardware (such as a toothed locked washer / star washer) must score the frame surface to make positive electrical contact with the frame. The ground wire must be considered within the requirement of local regulations at the site of installation.

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And Schletter do a special clamp that is deisgned to penetrate the surface of the frame slightly (it has a point on the underside).

BruceB · May 24, 2011

now I know why not to use sharp panels!

dansk · May 24, 2011

BruceB said:
now I know why not to use sharp panels!

Good one.

malcolmsanford · May 24, 2011

Are we talking about bonding the frame or earthing the panels.

If the frame is floating then by bonding it could lead to a situation where if there is a fault within the equipotential zone and the frame was not ordinarily an extraneous conductive part, then by the act of bonding it could introduce, the prescence of fault currents onto the frame that would otherwise be external to the bonding system

As for earthing the modules aren't they Class II equipment.

Worcester · May 24, 2011

We're talking about

2.2.1 Earthing of exposed conductive parts (array frame)

as per the guide, and the assumption is this must be earthed.

malcolmsanford · May 24, 2011

Worcester said:
We're talking about
as per the guide, and the assumption is this must be earthed.

To expound this why is the frame considered an exposed conductive part. The panels are Class II and I believe that DC cables have a double insulation, as the BS 7671-2008 gives the definition of an exposed conductor part as being

"Conductive part of equipment which can be touched and which is not normally live, but which can become live when basic insulation fails"

So would think that there is little reason to earth the frame.

Worcester · May 24, 2011

@malcolmsandford, as per my opening post, I do not want to get into a discussion as to wether in a particular instance an array should or should not be earthed, I suggest we take THAT discussion into a different thread.

Don't want to get into a discussion here about when to earth the array or not.

Lets' assume it MUST be earthed.

How are people doing it?

SibertSolar · May 24, 2011

If you earth bond a PV frame/system does it then become part of the equipotential zone?

Worcester · May 24, 2011

2.2.1 Earthing of exposed conductive parts (array frame)
The majority of installations will utilise class II modules, class II d.c. cables & connectors and be connected to the mains via an inverter with an isolation transformer. This approach is recommended and permits the array frame to be left floating.
Notes to terms used in diagram:
a) Isolating transformer: An isolating transformer is one in which the input and output windings are electrically separated by double or reinforced insulation (see BS 3535).
While the hazards presented by an array frame reaching the system d.c. potential may be significant, the potential fault/shock current is typically much less than that from a mains fault. Hence it is the electrical separation of the mains from the d.c. using an isolating transformer that is the key determining factor when assessing the requirement for array frame earthing.
b) ‘Equipotential Zone’ is defined as a zone in which exposed-conductive parts and extraneous-conductive parts are maintained at substantially the same potential by bonding, such that, under fault conditions, the differences in potential between simultaneously accessible exposed and extraneous-conductive parts will not cause electric shock. ‘Extraneous-conductive parts’ are conductive parts liable to introduce a potential, generally earth potential, and not forming part of the electrical installation, such as a water pipe, outside tap, a metal downpipe – anything conductive that is connected to ‘Earth’ but not electrically part of the system.
c) PME – Protective Multiple Earthing – an earthing arrangement whereby the supply neutral and earth are combined into a single conductor. Where the incoming supply is PME (the majority of domestic supply arrangements), the PME earth cannot be taken outside the equipotential zone. This is to prevent the potential shock hazard should the supply neutral ever be lost.

Now, can we PLEASE get back to the question

, how are people doing it , what is best practice ...

malcolmsanford · May 24, 2011

c) PME – Protective Multiple Earthing – an earthing arrangement whereby the supply neutral and earth are combined into a single conductor. Where the incoming supply is PME (the majority of domestic supply arrangements), the PME earth cannot be taken outside the equipotential zone. This is to prevent the potential shock hazard should the supply neutral ever be lost.

Sorry Worcester not sure where this is coming from but is this a serious suggestion, and where does it come from as neither the BS 7671-2008 or the ESQCR-2002 prohibit the exportation of the earth on a PME system.

Why is the PV industry trying to re-write electrical regulations.

BruceB · May 24, 2011

MS, Yes I agree it is rubbish albeit that is not what Worcester is trying to discuss here.

For Worcester, to add to my earlier post where I described how I had bonded the array, that was the installation I was assessed on and the assessor made no comment on how I had done it.

Regards
Bruce

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