Whodunnit ? | Page 2 | on ElectriciansForums

Whodunnit ?

Post new thread
  • Thread starter MCS Renewables
  • Start date
  • Replies 34
  • Views 5K

Discuss Whodunnit ? in the Solar PV Forum | Solar Panels Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

[ElectriciansForums.net] Whodunnit ?[ElectriciansForums.net] Whodunnit ?
heres one we did in bonnie scotland early last year
the house was on a golf course so I hope no golf balls hit the Panels !!
 
I come accros this all time when quoting, so much so im bored of it, customers being told by other firms they can fit on more than i suggest even when ive beem to site and done a roof measure.

i wonder if im the one in the wrong? maybe i cant measure? or my tape measure is elastic?

Ithink the real reason is a marketing ploy, sell the system on something unrealistic, then once they have signed they turn around on the day and say "sorry sir/madam we can only fit x amount of panels on" by which time its too late to back out.
 
dansk said:
Ithink the real reason is a marketing ploy, sell the system on something unrealistic, then once they have signed they turn around on the day and say "sorry sir/madam we can only fit x amount of panels on" by which time its too late to back out.
Click to expand...

That is spot on. We won a job before last year's deadline for 13 panels. Competitor quoted for 16. We explained to the customer how that was impossible and fortunately he believed us. He was in absolutely no doubt when he later went and measured up for himself, once we had the scaffolding up. Happened again this week- customer been quoted for 15 panels and 'can we beat the price'. Yes we can. We're only quoting for 12 panels though ;-)
 
Or someone who has saved all their lives and because of the bankers is now getting a rubbish interest rate while the bankers still manage to get massive bonuses! Just cos I have 2 systems on doesn't make me a greedy git - I'm providing for my future.
 
dansk said:
I come accros this all time when quoting, so much so im bored of it, customers being told by other firms they can fit on more than i suggest even when ive beem to site and done a roof measure.

i wonder if im the one in the wrong? maybe i cant measure? or my tape measure is elastic?

Ithink the real reason is a marketing ploy, sell the system on something unrealistic, then once they have signed they turn around on the day and say "sorry sir/madam we can only fit x amount of panels on" by which time its too late to back out.
Click to expand...

we come across this a fair amount too - probably from the same companies, part of the reason we produce 3d models of each house showing the arrays on them so the customer can clearly see what we're proposing to install.

Annoyingly, we had one potential customer where a certain award winning company had quoted twice for systems that simply wouldn't fit on their roof. We even went to the trouble of producing a plan showing clearly that it couldn't fit, yet they went with the other company anyway because it was award winning. Personally it'd raise serious questions to me if a company produced 2 quotes in a row that wouldn't fit on the roof, not that I'm bitter or owt.

The worst example though was one where the other companies double glazing salesman had obviously measured the length of the roof, missed the fact that it was a hipped roof, and quoted for a full 4kWp system on that one roof face... we got that job with an installation that would actually fit.
 
moggy1968 said:
are the ones on the side definately PV, not thermal, they look a different size, or is it just an illusion? the overhang is way too much on the ones on the side. Not sure whats going on with those on the garage, a bit bizzare!

The ones on the front, well, I would have thought the two vertical ones could have gone horizontal but it's hard to say. IN fact the left hand vertical looks as though 2 horizontals would have fitted.

If your refering also to the scattering of panels, maybe the customer insisted. I quoted on a job a while back, 11 panels in 2 rows, but the customer insisted he wanted 16. I explained where those would have to go and the consequences of that re shading etc but he wanted them so we did it. The shading on the bottom right is less problematic than it may look and the system is performing very well but I wasn't too pleased with the visual appearance, but he was delighted! The inverter by the way went in his music room, complete with conduit etc. I showed him lots of piccies of what to expect, but thats what he wanted and again, he's delighted. He did say he would get it boxed in!
At the end of the day you can advise, but it's the customers choice!

View attachment 10497View attachment 10498 Anyone else brave enough to put there worst jobs on here!!!
Click to expand...

Hey Moggs?

Did you bond the array to the MET or an earth rod? LOL
 
Never a dull moment here in the SDC office, we put together the following over a coffee break. Note this is not intended as accurate simulation as we did not fully survey the site but we hope it illustrates what is possible with PV*SOL 3D design. The advantage of simulating such a challenging set of roofs in 3D is that the results of various module positioning and potential return on investment can be easily quantified. If anyone wants some more screenshots from this simulation, let us know.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Whodunnit ?
Basic layout created in 3D. Now possible to position viewpoint anywhere in the space and to set the sun’s position to any date..

[ElectriciansForums.net] Whodunnit ?
Shading from the soil stack causing surprising high shading frequency.
 
Out of interest, how did you put the windows in? I know how to put the roof windows in but didn't know you could show the actual windows in the walls.

How did you do the sheltered porch area too? And I thought I knew PV Sol Expert like the back of my hand.....
 

Reply to Whodunnit ? in the Solar PV Forum | Solar Panels Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

News and Offers from Sponsors

PCBWay
  • Article
Meet PCBWay at electronica A1.163
Join us at electronica 2024 in Munich! Since 1964, electronica has been the premier event for technology enthusiasts and industry professionals...
    • Like
Replies
0
Views
281
PCBWay
PCBWay
Electrical2go
  • Sticky
  • Article
📢 Best Sellers Catalogue Now Available! 📢
Good to know thanks, one can never have enough places to source parts from!
Replies
4
Views
780
Bob Labla
B
Dan
  • Article
The Official Sponsors of ElectriciansForums - There are currently 8
OFFICIAL SPONSORS These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then...
Replies
0
Views
791
Dan
Dan

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

YOUR Unread Posts

This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by untold.media Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top