Electrician's Notes

Devon Sparky · Apr 4, 2013

Hi, I posted a thread a while ago looking for guide to keep in the toolbox. I wanted something that had a decent amount of info but something that was more concise, and less vulnerable to damage, than the OSG. There's not much on the market to fit the bill but the one I did find is really useful. You can see it on you tube at Electrician's Notes by dott solutions - YouTube I've only had mine a week but I think it's a real time saver and something I thought was worth sharing. Cheers.

BigSi · Apr 4, 2013

I keep a complete set of NICEIC pocket guides in the van (normally pick up a set every year at Elex). They are pretty hard wearing, and you can also show them to the customer to clarify a point.

MDJ · Apr 4, 2013

Whats the point? really? keep a few OSGs and GNs and others in the van, by why In the tool box haha

stuartcourt · Apr 4, 2013

ha ha maybe they live close enough to walk to work

BigSi · Apr 4, 2013

The only reason why I keep them in my tool box, is because there is normally room to fit a few books and guides. :willy_nilly:

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Devon Sparky · Apr 4, 2013

Interesting to read the last couple of replies and in answer: I tried the NIEIEC pocket notes but to be honest, by the time I'd collected the useful info I wanted to carry around with me, I found them just as bulky and un-user friendly as the OSG. And to answer, what's the point - I like to carry around a bit of info in the end pocket of my toolbox and this has proved useful twice just this week. While working at a customer's house (that was up to date with a Schedule of Test Results!) the customer wanted to change 16 ELV down lighters for LEDs. I know, like most will that the Zs should be less than 6.14 but for the LEDs I'd need a C-rated breaker. The choice was back to the van for a fumble through the OSG and a calculator to work out the 80% figure or just read it from the new book I'd bought that was in the toolbox? Same customer wanted to know why I wouldn't fit her 'bathroom' light she'd bought from a DIY store over her shower. I could show her the zone chart in the Electrician's Notes and she was happy. The booklet won't be everyone's cup of tea but having tried it, I'm quite a fan.

MDJ · Apr 4, 2013

Haha, good reply, looks like my tool box except I have stickle bricks in mine :hurray:

monkeyelectric · Apr 4, 2013

BigSi said:
The only reason why I keep them in my tool box, is because there is normally room to fit a few books and guides. :willy_nilly:

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Ah you got that set too, i got mine on special from elex, wouldn't be without it

monkeyelectric · Apr 4, 2013

Devon Sparky said:
Interesting to read the last couple of replies and in answer: I tried the NIEIEC pocket notes but to be honest, by the time I'd collected the useful info I wanted to carry around with me, I found them just as bulky and un-user friendly as the OSG. And to answer, what's the point - I like to carry around a bit of info in the end pocket of my toolbox and this has proved useful twice just this week. While working at a customer's house (that was up to date with a Schedule of Test Results!) the customer wanted to change 16 ELV down lighters for LEDs. I know, like most will that the Zs should be less than 6.14 but for the LEDs I'd need a C-rated breaker. The choice was back to the van for a fumble through the OSG and a calculator to work out the 80% figure or just read it from the new book I'd bought that was in the toolbox? Same customer wanted to know why I wouldn't fit her 'bathroom' light she'd bought from a DIY store over her shower. I could show her the zone chart in the Electrician's Notes and she was happy. The booklet won't be everyone's cup of tea but having tried it, I'm quite a fan.

The osg values are 80% already

BigSi · Apr 4, 2013

The only problem is my nephew keeps trying to pinch them every time he visits. Trouble is, how can you tell him it’s dangerous to play with Tommy tape measure and Sally screwdriver!!!

monkeyelectric · Apr 4, 2013

BigSi said:
The only problem is my nephew keeps trying to pinch them every time he visits. Trouble is, how can you tell him it’s dangerous to play with Tommy tape measure and Sally screwdriver!!!

Last time i was on site a stinking plumber tried to borrow Tommy tape so i stabbed him with Sally screwdriver

Adam W · Apr 4, 2013

Can anyone comment on the Amicus guides? I've not used them myself but I hear they're supposed to be worth the money.

rmc86uk · Apr 4, 2013

If I kept a copy of the OSG in my bag I'd get laughed at plus it's also red!

Devon Sparky · Apr 4, 2013

Adam W said:
Can anyone comment on the Amicus guides? I've not used them myself but I hear they're supposed to be worth the money.

I think the Amicus guides have now gone and been replaced by Unite Guides. They are good but not for the same purpose. The Electrician's Notes are good on site or handy to have when filling in the paperwork. The Unite Guides are more like a revision tool for passing exams or refreshing your regs knowledge.

brman · Apr 4, 2013

Devon Sparky said:
Interesting to read the last couple of replies and in answer: I tried the NIEIEC pocket notes but to be honest, by the time I'd collected the useful info I wanted to carry around with me, I found them just as bulky and un-user friendly as the OSG. And to answer, what's the point - I like to carry around a bit of info in the end pocket of my toolbox and this has proved useful twice just this week. While working at a customer's house (that was up to date with a Schedule of Test Results!) the customer wanted to change 16 ELV down lighters for LEDs. I know, like most will that the Zs should be less than 6.14 but for the LEDs I'd need a C-rated breaker. The choice was back to the van for a fumble through the OSG and a calculator to work out the 80% figure or just read it from the new book I'd bought that was in the toolbox? Same customer wanted to know why I wouldn't fit her 'bathroom' light she'd bought from a DIY store over her shower. I could show her the zone chart in the Electrician's Notes and she was happy. The booklet won't be everyone's cup of tea but having tried it, I'm quite a fan.

I can sort of see your point but I have to admit I have never had anyone question me when I quote things like zones to them off the top of my head.
My phone has a calculator so 230/(6*10)*0.8 isn't a difficult sum. Plus doing it on a calculator in front the customer makes them think I know what I am doing.....

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