Spur

Gtbadboy1 · Nov 25, 2013

Can anyone tell me if its possible to spur off a cooker circuit?

MDJ · Nov 25, 2013

With what? and What for?

Pete999 · Nov 25, 2013

Nahh shouldn't think so bad practice

telectrix · Nov 25, 2013

eggsackly. need to know what kind of spur. a railway spur would be a bugger to install.

Pete999 · Nov 25, 2013

How about a cowboy spur, you know on his boot

telectrix · Nov 25, 2013

like this???

or this

Badged01 · Nov 25, 2013

Gtbadboy1 said:
Can anyone tell me if its possible to spur off a cooker circuit?

A cooker circuit is just a circuit .... apply the rules as you would elsewhere when taking a spur. Most cooker controlunits have a built in socket! But if its wired in 10mm you may not get it into the new socket ......

Pete999 · Nov 25, 2013

Yep thats the1

spark 68 · Nov 25, 2013

I have spurred of the cooker circuit before using 2.5mm^ (and 1.5mm before) to feed a FCU (fused at 3A) for the cooker hood, using the forward fusing rules 434 etc.., however you should not run other equipment other than that for the intended circuit, say a socket outlet off of the shower circuit should not be done (although I cannot find the actual reg that said this.)

In this case I did not add significantly to the load of the existing circuit, and it was for use alongside/with the said cooker.

Guest55 · Nov 25, 2013

Gtbadboy1 said:
Can anyone tell me if its possible to spur off a cooker circuit?

yep.
anything else ?
;-)

Guest55 · Nov 25, 2013

spark 68 said:
(although I cannot find the actual reg that said this.)

which would lead a logical thinker to conclude what ?

;-)

spark 68 · Nov 25, 2013

biff55 said:
which would lead a logical thinker to conclude what ?

;-)

either it was in a previous edition (16th or 17th pre amd1) and it doesn't exist now, or, seen as how I just had quick look and somehow missed it ?

kingeri · Nov 25, 2013

Gtbadboy1 said:
Can anyone tell me if its possible to spur off a cooker circuit?

Only if you tell me how long a piece of string is.

telectrix · Nov 25, 2013

wet or dry string?

kingeri · Nov 25, 2013

Greasy.

Guest55 · Nov 25, 2013

spark 68 said:
either it was in a previous edition (16th or 17th pre amd1) and it doesn't exist now, or, seen as how I just had quick look and somehow missed it ?

ooh , so close but no cigar.

Answer. it doesnt exist.

you could keep looking in an attempt to prove me wrong ?

telectrix · Nov 25, 2013

bloody 'ell, biff. next you'll be telling us :24:that santa and the tooth fairy don't exist. :tank:

spark 68 · Nov 25, 2013

The only part I can find is to do with ring finals, stating any loads above 2kW should be on their own dedicated circuit.

I was either taught that they should be seperate, or it was given as best practice advice at some point, or even maybe in one of the Nic books, then again it could even be an urban myth, either way I cannot find an actual reg actually forbidding it.

Badged01 · Nov 25, 2013

spark 68 said:
The only part I can find is to do with ring finals, stating any loads above 2kW should be on their own dedicated circuit..

Good old appendix 15? An 'informative' appendix as one way of achieveing reg 433. Good design is another way ..... Ive just never gotten around to being a good designer!

I cannot find an actual reg actually forbidding it.

You're not the only one, neither can I ......

spark 68 · Nov 25, 2013

Badged01 said:
Good old appendix 15? An 'informative' appendix as one way of achieveing reg 433. Good design is another way ..... Ive just never gotten around to being a good designer!

You're not the only one, neither can I ......

Yes and I looked through 16th ed AMD1 & 2, 17thed and the 17th AMD 1, think I will have a look at the 15th later, lol, like you say it probably has been taught as good design practice in the past, and just stuck.

MDJ · Nov 25, 2013

kingeri said:
Only if you tell me how long a piece of string is.

Twice as long, as it is when it is folded in half.

Gtbadboy1 · Nov 25, 2013

Hi Guys,
the cooker circuit is done with 6mm cable and is protected by a 20ma breaker. i use the same size cable to the FSU from FSU i use 2.5mm cable to connect the extractor fan.

Just want to know if this is safe and comply with the regs

camerabloke · Nov 25, 2013

No and no

spark 68 · Nov 25, 2013

Yes he can, he could use 1.5mm from the cooker isolator to the FCU, so long as the length of his spur is less than 3m

Gtbadboy1 · Nov 25, 2013

I thought the cooker is a radial circuit and can be soured off from by using the same size cable?

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