(Not so) Handymen..and plumbers!

urbanmonkey · Mar 24, 2014

Rant warning!!

Twice in as many weeks I've had to put right the work of local 'handymen' and also the work of a 'part p' plumber, who after cocking it up completely and leaving a minor works cert for fitting an instant water heater, complete with new circuit wired into the hob mcb, then stuck a lovely 'next inspection due in 10 years' sticker on the front of the board! People hire these clowns to get a job done cheaper and moan like buggery when I turn up and quote them to put it right. I seem to be encountering this sort of thing more and more, has anybody else noticed this? I've also had a plumber on a job telling me what the Earthing requirements for the new consumer unit will be, and then trying to quote the customer and undercut me for replacing it after I had gone. A PLUMBER! That's it, I'm sacking the boy and going to work at tesco!

GLENNSPARK · Mar 24, 2014

urbanmonkey said:
Rant warning!!

Twice in as many weeks I've had to put right the work of local 'handymen' and also the work of a 'part p' plumber, who had stuck a lovely 'next inspection due in 10 years' sticker on the front of the board, People hire these clowns to get a job done cheaper and moan like buggery when I turn up and quote them to put it right. I seem to be encountering this sort of thing more and more, has anybody else noticed this? I've also had a plumber on a job telling me what the Earthing requirements for the new consumer unit will be, and then trying to quote the customer and undercut me for replacing it after I had gone. A PLUMBER! That's it, I'm sacking the boy and going to work at tesco!

every day fella.

was the property in question a rented place?

GLENNSPARK · Mar 24, 2014

was that plumber prattling on about crossbonding under his boiler?...

or was this a main earthing issue with him?

urbanmonkey · Mar 24, 2014

The water heater job was yes, the landlord rang me as the tenant had reported the hob not working and no hot water, got there to find the mcb tripped and the rest speaks for itself!

urbanmonkey · Mar 24, 2014

He was telling me what size Earthing conductor I should be using and that I must run all extraneous bonds separately, and into the new board. Except he called them 'externalus bonding'

Plonker 3 · Mar 24, 2014

So now it's because the bonding may be incorrect that there is no hot water lol.

GLENNSPARK · Mar 24, 2014

urbanmonkey said:
He was telling me what size Earthing conductor I should be using and that I must run all extraneous bonds separately, and into the new board. Except he called them 'externalus bonding'

well clearly he was talking out of his botty hole here....wasn`t he..

GLENNSPARK · Mar 24, 2014

urbanmonkey said:
He was telling me what size Earthing conductor I should be using and that I must run all extraneous bonds separately, and into the new board. Except he called them 'externalus bonding'

ask him to show by calculation (adiabatic) what CSA main earthing conductor size you could use....

see how he copes...

Zebra Stripe · Mar 24, 2014

I used to know someone called "Externalus Bonding" he was an outdoor underwater spy.......tumble weed...........wind whisteling etc....

mobile · Mar 24, 2014

grrr

Please don't get me started on plumbers (you wouldn't like me when I get big and green)

urbanmonkey · Mar 24, 2014

GLENNSPARK said:
well clearly he was talking out of his botty hole here....wasn`t he..

He was referring to the way the oil and water bond were to be done in one continuous loop, from water to oil to MET, apparently not allowed....

urbanmonkey · Mar 24, 2014

GLENNSPARK said:
ask him to show by calculation (adiabatic) what CSA main earthing conductor size you could use....

see how he copes...

Him, IT MUST BE 16MM!
Me, but the tails are 16mm....

trev · Mar 24, 2014

urbanmonkey said:
Him, IT MUST BE 16MM!
Me, but the tails are 16mm....

Him, They must be 25mm?

GLENNSPARK · Mar 24, 2014

urbanmonkey said:
Him, IT MUST BE 16MM!
Me, but the tails are 16mm....

well yet again its botty hole talk...isn`t it caus if he had any clue on how to apply the adiabatic then he would know that for an 80A BS1361 the CSA required for 5 sec dis time would be 8.94mm....so a 10mm main earthing conductor will suffice...

GMES · Mar 24, 2014

[ElectriciansForums.net] (Not so) Handymen..and plumbers!

Builders and Joiners are as bad this is the calibre of the tradesman i worked alongside a few months ago, can you spot the mistake because he couldn't( Div )