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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    I opened up the CU again and the round junction box above and what I found was the blue and brown wires coming in from the wall just above the 15a circuit breaker are actually the L & N coming in to the CU. The black and blue wires are leaving the CU to the dodgy looking wall switch marked Main...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Hi littlespark, the 15amp circuit breaker at the bottom has troubled me, since you mentioned it being live. So, I switched ONLY the 15amp breaker off and I'm still getting 230v at the socket L to E. Is the MCB not wired the wrong way round. The live with the earth tied to it, goes out through...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. GOOD NEWS.... Pester power has finally worked... I got an email this morning from the Community Administrator saying they had appointed an electrician to put in a central earthing point and they would be looking to find a suitable place to position the...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks again Brian... In a scenario where my hand is on the fridge or I'm in the shower with the water heater on because my apartment is on rock am I going to likely get killed if a neutral break occurs or feel a tingle or worse. Or what us my biggest concern? thanks
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks Simon, yes tried putting pressure on the building administrators. They stopped replying to emails but I started with the emails again last few days but with innocuous non earthing enquiries and they replied. Asked about the earthing again yesterday, did get a reply from a Secretary saying...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    I have tried putting the hard push on the administrators insinuating that not reacting to a serious problem with a serious incident such as the building burning down isn't going to be a good look.... Followed by, from my point of view, I don't want my granddaughter or wife injured or killed...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Sad indeed... A pet hate of mine, are the hand dryers blowing water all over an electrical socket below it, with you standing on the wet patch on the floor.
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks will check it out when home later👍
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    They look marginally interested for a moment, then shrug their shoulders.... Think as it's been like this for years Think they're interested for a moment then shrug the shoulders... It's been like this for years and no ones got hurt is the predominant attitude...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks Pirate for your reply and advice. Totally agree on the peace of mind aspect, which is why I wasn't happy having no earth in place. I'm going to give the administrators/community of owners another push about a community earthing point. So far there's been a couldn't care less attitude to...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks Mike for your reply and info on the plate electrode, which may be the way to go. I've pushed the building administrator on getting an earth connection for the community but without success, which is why I got a spark in, as thought I'll get it done myself. Not sure I'm sleeping easier though.
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    I suppose if I boil it down, will rcd's protect us should things go bad or do I ask for TT supply, which may be hard to achieve on this rocky area .... Don't want to fry the wife, ( atm anyway 😂), or granddaughter... Thank you all, for your help👍
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Agreed... It's difficult to describe and show you and a different country's regs all adds to the difficulty.... Thank you
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    Thanks for your reply Brian... I had read about PME TN-C-S and understood it's achieved by combining earth to neutral, which works well unless a break develops on the neutral return line then there could be problems with things going live or getting zapped. If the earth is tied to live that...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    I think your path description sounds spot on and now I can visualise the path, thank you. I'm still puzzled about the earth wire joined with the brown wire. That earth wire goes straight up to the round junction box shown in the original post to join with all the earth wires coming from the...
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    dangers associated with wiring earth to neutral in the consumer unit?

    OK been checking with the multimeter. Firstly, all switches turn the electricity off. This is only a very small studio, with no bedrooms btw. The wires that come in the bottom are blue and black and arrive at the consumer unit via conduit from a dodgy look switch which is stuck behind a cupboard...
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