16th edition board

[lewlec]

If you were to issue a periodic with a modern date.see if that satisfies him,dont say you wired it because its an offence

HI DES

WHY DO YOU SAY ITS AN OFFENCE? BECAUSE I DID WIRE IT?

REGARDS
GARY

 

[SirKit Breaker]

yes. the installation complied with current regs. when it was installed, so PIR it. job done

Totally agree mate.

 

[Des 56]

Maybe the word offence was a bit dramatic,I will try and explain how I understand the sytem and how you are supposed to comply

For me to use the word offence, may have been presuming a few things(wrongly perhaps)


Part p of the building regs gives a couple of ways of complying

A person has to notify the works to labc before the work starts and pay a fee
If you have full plans approval, it means the wiring doesn't have to be notified seperately,so the fee would be taken care of by the full plans bit

Part p requires a completion certificate to say that it complies with the building regs

That has to be issued by the inspector after the work has been inspected at first and second fix by the inspector, and testing and certification is then the responsibility of labc

To by pass this procedure,a person doing the wiring can register with a competent person scheme to self certify compliance with the building regs

If neither of these options is taken,then there are ( on paper anyway ) fines for non compliance with the building regs
Those fines ( on paper again ) are very hefty I was under the impression it was in the thousands
That is why I used the word offence
I am sorry if I have presumed anything eg if you are registered or if you did notify labc

I may well be very very wrong with some or even all of my information,but it may be worthwhile checking

To be a little more positive
Part p is not implemented by nearly every labc in the land
It is not any concern to sparks who dont register .it is of no concern to the millions of people who do Diy
Nobody as far as I know have been prosecuted for not notifying work or for bad installation work
Its a crap piece of legistlation,but on paper it should be followed,or so mps believed, when they enacted the nonesense

 

[lewlec]

thanks des

when the work started i was employed and not part p registered but..... by the time the work was completed i was a member of the nic, my fault really i should have done something about it then. anyway i think i need to talk to my building inspector and see what he recons, maybe he will say a 16th cert will be ok if not i will have to upgrade my db with rcbos and issue a 17th completion cert. thanks for your advice

regards
gary

 

[SimpleSimon]

Maybe the word offence was a bit dramatic,I will try and explain how I understand the sytem and how you are supposed to comply

For me to use the word offence, may have been presuming a few things(wrongly perhaps)

Part p of the building regs gives a couple of ways of complying

A person has to notify the works to labc before the work starts and pay a fee
If you have full plans approval, it means the wiring doesn't have to be notified seperately,so the fee would be taken care of by the full plans bit

Part p requires a completion certificate to say that it complies with the building regs

That has to be issued by the inspector after the work has been inspected at first and second fix by the inspector, and testing and certification is then the responsibility of labc

To by pass this procedure,a person doing the wiring can register with a competent person scheme to self certify compliance with the building regs

If neither of these options is taken,then there are ( on paper anyway ) fines for non compliance with the building regs
Those fines ( on paper again ) are very hefty I was under the impression it was in the thousands
That is why I used the word offence
I am sorry if I have presumed anything eg if you are registered or if you did notify labc

I may well be very very wrong with some or even all of my information,but it may be worthwhile checking

To be a little more positive
Part p is not implemented by nearly every labc in the land
It is not any concern to sparks who dont register .it is of no concern to the millions of people who do Diy
Nobody as far as I know have been prosecuted for not notifying work or for bad installation work
Its a crap piece of legistlation,but on paper it should be followed,or so mps believed, when they enacted the nonesense

I had the building inspector out to me the other day, he came to assess my CU change on my own property which is one of my assessment pieces.

He came out, looked at the CU visually, which is above a door, asked to see the certificate,asked to see my qualifications and that was it, goes through to planning and he said I should hear back soon, that was the one and only time he came out to see me. Simple.
I thought it was going to be alot harder.
Does anyone know if there is a time limit between completing a job and submitting an application?

 

[spamwize2]

you do not need part p to sign anything off if you are a qualified spark, pir will do as you are a competent person

 

[vitoboy]

if your submiting the job to nic then you need to do it within 25 days of completion.
the date of completion is the date on the installation cert...ie its not complete until the install cert is done.
so just do a new install cert and your away..
i assume you have only part rcd cover on your db and yes easyest to fit some rcbos then your all up to date init
good luck

 

[lewlec]

hi

spoke to the building inspector today,he said that there is no problem with a 16th ed cert.
thanks for all your replies.

regards
gary