18 Days to come qualified

[Redvanman]

I was amazed when told about this

Bronze: Domestic Installer Course

You even get to pass the test and inspect course.

is this really possible starting with no knowledge

Christ this really is belittling our trade. Now I know why I make a good living of sorting out bodge jobs.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Here ya go mate Buy Faithfull Nail Puller from Axminster, fast delivery for the UK

Thanks. Next question is 'how does it work?'

Surely the nail head has to be protruding in order to 'grab' it? On the boards I am looking at, the nail heads are at best flush, but more usually recessed by 1 or 2 mm.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

sorry, just read the 'how to' on the website. Looks good, gonna get one, thanks.

 

[ruston]

Actually it tells you in the link , even though it is self evident.

 

[ruston]

sorry, just read the 'how to' on the website. Looks good, gonna get one, thanks.

Just posted same time , sorry.

 

[KAS1]

18 days phew is that with any breaks

 

[GLENNSPARK]

18 days phew is that with any breaks

probably the lunch they lay on....

 

[ruston]

18 days phew is that with any breaks

Yup three in the RFC , one in the 2g 2way and a mystery tour in the intermediate.

 

[KAS1]

In my first 18 days I learned nothing apart from how to behave and act safely on site and respect my elders, oh and that the wages were crap lol

 

[northstar]

these places will make money as local colleges are charging £3400 for L3 2365 course which takes 1 to 2 years

 

[stan794]

I did one (tin hat) at that place E and ends in U, same thing, 3 weeks ready to rock n roll, woefully inadequate for real world stuff despite my nice shiney certificates.

 

[trev]

In my first 18 days I learned nothing apart from how to behave and act safely on site and respect my elders, oh and that the wages were crap lol

I was taught the best way to carry a heavy tool box, how to fetch and carry, push a brush and not to be cheeky. The electrical knowledge started to be given much much later

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I was taught what it was like to be thrown out of the van cable tied up a mile from the job with just a set of snips out of reach in my back pocket. Postman cut me loose and pointed me in the right direction of the job.

 

[hubsy]

Am I glad I'm close to retirement.

Too many under trained tradesmen nowdays.

getting dangerous following these cowboys.

 

[trev]

I wonder what the silver and gold DI courses are

 

[KAS1]

Silver = Semi detached house and gold = detached

 

[ruston]

I wonder what the silver and gold DI courses are

Where to put the full stops and comma's and how to put a battery in a MFT.

 

[Rockingit]

I wonder what the silver and gold DI courses are

probably methods of payment. But don't worry - you'll be making £50k+ by the end of the year.

 

[Engineer54]

The ONLY people that legitimise these rogue so-called tradesmen, are the very organisations that were put in place to improve the safety and competence of those that undertake domestic installations. That has obviously failed miserably, as member numbers = money, .....and money is far more important to these scheme providers than fraudulently endorsing an incompetent fool, into someones home to play around with they're electrical installations!!


The Sooner you get rid of the band of money making parasites the Better... End Of!!

 

[Amp David]

Thanks. Next question is 'how does it work?'

Surely the nail head has to be protruding in order to 'grab' it? On the boards I am looking at, the nail heads are at best flush, but more usually recessed by 1 or 2 mm.

Those pullers are brilliant.

You start with the claw or jaws open, with one each side of the nail. As you knock the handle down, the jaws bite into the floor and close each time the tool is struck. Once the jaws have fully bitten the nail, (usually after three good knocks), then you use the little foot on the bottom and use it as a pivot point to pull the nail clean out.

You are left with a clean floor board, with a small indent in it where the claw has gripped the nail.

Much better than split boards everywhere.

Did a rewire on a large bungalow at the start of the year and used one. At the end there were about 3 small sections of floorboard that needed replacing, and these were pulled using the old method of smash the tongue of with a chisel and prise upmg_smile:

 

[stranded]

Dosent get any better does it? Bloody hell, puts our trade to shame a bit and some of us are finding it tough enough... There is a reason for four year apprenticeships...

Listen to the difference:

Course: 18 days
Apprenticeship: (give or take) 1,280 days...

 

[stan794]

Great isn't it, did mine in 15 days though

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I have found one for 15 days, please ignore my comments, just cant help a little bit of sarcasm occassionally, especially when I am a DI! mg_smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcJrOlM_RJ8

 

[oldtimer]

Good grief well if I was worried before I am more worried now

 

[stan794]

That's the one I did, trouble is its woefully inadequate

 

[UNG]

The ONLY people that legitimise these rogue so-called tradesmen, are the very organisations that were put in place to improve the safety and competence of those that undertake domestic installations. That has obviously failed miserably, as member numbers = money, .....and money is far more important to these scheme providers than fraudulently endorsing an incompetent fool, into someones home to play around with they're electrical installations!!


The Sooner you get rid of the band of money making parasites the Better... End Of!!

The organisations you talk of are run by people with little or no electrical knowledge they obviously assume that the same level of knowledge is needed for those doing the hands on work hence recognition of the fast track course and those trained by them

 

[Silly Sausage]

One of these training companies is run/owned by an ex Sweeney type copper!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

That's the one I did, trouble is its woefully inadequate

I guess its up to you Stan to now find a qualified Spark and spend a bit of time with them to gain experience. If you are like me and had very little knowledge before the course then afterwards you are still only going to know the very basics. I have had to teach myself many, many things.. adiabatic, volt drop, correct cables for outside/underground etc, all the building work that goes along with electrics etc etc etc.... The vast majority of the chaps on this site are brilliant, but be prepared to take a bit of (well deserved) stick!!

 

[MDJ]

And a forum sponsor as well. Very sad.

Quite Right, when does the campaign start to remove them, bloody apalling

 

[MDJ]

Great isn't it, did mine in 15 days though

Mine took 1,825 to become a spark, 2,555 to become approved and 4,015 to become a technician, I still learn here every day, no idea how 15 days can be the norm today, I have heard of 7 weeks which is 49 days, my god what's happening?

 

[Plonker 3]

Mine took 1,825 to become a spark, 2,555 to become approved and 4,015 to become a technician, I still learn here every day, no idea how 15 days can be the norm today, I have heard of 7 weeks which is 49 days, my god what's happening?

You must just be a very slow learner :rolleyes4:

 

[scotsparky]

dippyhippy jsut seen your comment on vidio just a hint of sarcasm

 

[Essexboy7]

I have found one for 15 days, please ignore my comments, just cant help a little bit of sarcasm occassionally, especially when I am a DI! mg_smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcJrOlM_RJ8

unbelieveable that they would advertise that crap

 

[Redvanman]

Love the comments you lot have left on the you tube video I'm rolling about

 

[mark ju]

Seriously though. I think you are all missing a very valid point here. Cop a look at that guy in the background. With that dodgy haircut and mad staring eyes, he'll never make it as a sparks.
Compared with someone like me he's just not pretty enough!

 

[Farmelectrics]

Domestic installer = chancer

 

[Farmelectrics]

Your jib card should be needed to do any electrical work no card no work then everyone who has got one would have done all the city and guilds exams but more importantly they would have passed there am1 and am2 PRACTICAL exams

 

[Redvanman]

Didn't have am 1 & 2 when I was an apprentice

 

[Farmelectrics]

Ok red understand it wasn't around years ago but the problem these days is they go on these short courses pass a few theory exams and these people are then loose in our trade without passing any practical exams if they were all made to passs am1 and am2 first then lots wouldn't pass and if they did ok at least they would have proved that they were competent

 

[pauljpickering8]

How long until the JIB start giving them grade cards!

 

[Farmelectrics]

well they can have them as long as they meet the jib criteira