18th edition final changes released by IET

[Richard Burns]

Thank you for the information, useful.
I see they do not mention what they have decided about earth electrodes!
I am very disappointed that a professional organisation could even recommend AFDD, a very poor approach from the IET, but unfortunately they have proven again and again that it is politics and not safety that is the overriding factor.
The rest is pretty much as expected though the new sections I must have missed when attempting to read the draft (I did give up early on on that one!).
They have also failed to mention the amount of errors they intend to print, this would have been useful so that we could count up and be sure we have caught them all!

 

[ruston]

Thank you for the information, useful.
I see they do not mention what they have decided about earth electrodes!
I am very disappointed that a professional organisation could even recommend AFDD, a very poor approach from the IET, but unfortunately they have proven again and again that it is politics and not safety that is the overriding factor.
The rest is pretty much as expected though the new sections I must have missed when attempting to read the draft (I did give up early on on that one!).
They have also failed to mention the amount of errors they intend to print, this would have been useful so that we could count up and be sure we have caught them all!

It is there assurance that we have to pay to see the film.

They have not found the cheapest bidder yet. My yellow copy has disintegrated from the centre out.

 

[Spoon]

"A new Regulation 421.1.7 has been introduced recommending the installation of arc fault detection devices (AFDDs) to mitigate the risk of fire in AC final circuits of a fixed installation due to the effects of arc fault currents."

Ok, other people have already mentioned this....but....
Me being of limited intelligence... what do they mean by 'recommending'?
Have you got to do a 'risk assessment' if you choose not to follow this 'recommendation'?
What if there is a fire and it goes to court. They say that the regs 'recommend' AFDD... why were they not fitted?

 

[Andy78]

Thank you for the information, useful.
I see they do not mention what they have decided about earth electrodes!

This is all I can see ....

Chapter 54 Earthing arrangements and protective conductors

• Two new regulations (542.2.3 and 542.2.8) have been introduced concerning earth electrodes.

 

[Spunkywads26]

Thank you for the information, useful.
I see they do not mention what they have decided about earth electrodes!

Two new regulations (542.2.3 and 542.2.8) have been introduced concerning earth electrodes.

Jokes!!

They have explained some of the changes and then just put a stupid statement against others like electrodes. Like others have eluded to, I think they have yet to really make up their minds or they know that what they have decided is going to annoy folk.

 

[Wonderwall]

So, do people read that as , cables clipped on a joist , above a bedroom ceiling are no longer permitted to be held up with t&e clips?
The sheathed metallic pipe is a strange one as well.
Surely it still brings in a potential to the building? I'm not convinced all these engineers totally understand the science of it all. You just need to read the difference of opinions on the matter of earthing and bonding on here to realise there are many different takes on the matter.

 

[Midwest]

"A new Regulation 421.1.7 has been introduced recommending the installation of arc fault detection devices (AFDDs) to mitigate the risk of fire in AC final circuits of a fixed installation due to the effects of arc fault currents."

Ok, other people have already mentioned this....but....
Me being of limited intelligence... what do they mean by 'recommending'?
Have you got to do a 'risk assessment' if you choose not to follow this 'recommendation'?
What if there is a fire and it goes to court. They say that the regs 'recommend' AFDD... why were they not fitted?

Yeah right, think was 'may be or could be' in the draft, now its 'recommended'. These arseholes who live in the IET Ivory Tower, need to visit the coal face. All right on new installs, but just tell Mrs Miggins that.

Actually, think I just met her for the first time yesterday. Pull cord broke in her toilet before Xmas, and asked me to fix it. Then she broke her leg slipping on ice. Replaced it yesterday, along with new lampholder & flex. I said £25, she tried to give me £50.

 

[suffolkspark]

am I reading that right that SPD's might be more likely needed too?

 

[static zap]

Mien Gott! or something similarly appropriate.

Does that mean ,no more cheap china CE prats ,just German made ones!

 

[Ian1981]

So when we stop providing a protective bonding conductor to the gas because it enters the external cabinet from the ground in yellow plastic all the gas engineers will have a dickie fit!!

 

[Octopus]

What ALWAYS bugs me about these changes, is that the IET make absolutely no attempts at "educating" the public - and where such changes add complications and costs, its up to us sparks to justify them to the customers ...................

 

[ipf]

So when we stop providing a protective bonding conductor to the gas because it enters the external cabinet from the ground in yellow plastic all the gas engineers will have a dickie fit!!

Yeah......May be the only good thing coming out of it.
...All BG 'electrical experts' to be issued with clowns outfits and big red noses, at last.

 

[Midwest]

Did a job today, where customer previously asked for new socket, he had no rcd. So i was going to install rcd socket. Decides today he doesn't want to bother with that. But lets continue with the under cabinet lights; in July We won't be able to do that

 

[Ian1981]

Did a job today, where customer previously asked for new socket, he had no rcd. So i was going to install rcd socket. Decides today he doesn't want to bother with that. But lets continue with the under cabinet lights; in July We won't be able to do that

January 2019 is when we all need to comply, there’s still a window

 

[sparkdog]

So if Mrs Miggins wants an additional light she will need an RCD, she won't like it, you know!