18th Edition - Poll - what are your thoughts?

[Octopus]

So we all know the unnamed, faceless bureaucrats are trying to push on us more costs via the 18th Edition so do you support these changes?

 

[Midwest]

It surely won't be all circuits will need RCD protection.

All sockets (specific labelled socket & risk assessment will be deleted). All AC final circuits supplying luminaires (domestic), will require additional protection by RCD.

Doesn't leave a lot else, with the other stipulations we have now.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Not seen a risk assessed socket yet, seen plenty labelled which I feel works well. Mainly going to effect domestic installers then you would feel.

Isn't there something about all sockets rated 32A or less requiring RCD protection though as opposed to 20A or less

 

[Midwest]

Not seen a risk assessed socket yet, seen plenty labelled which I feel works well. Mainly going to effect domestic installers then you would feel.

Isn't there something about all sockets rated 32A or less requiring RCD protection though as opposed to 20A or less

All socket outlets not exceeding 32A. Have you not read the draft?

 

[Ian1981]

Think the risk assessment for non rcd protected sockets in non domestic installations was being abused so they will ditch it.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

No, why would I waste my free time reading a draft of regulations which may change?

 

[Pete999]

No, why would I waste my free time reading a draft of regulations which may change?

Funny, But true, why indeed.

 

[Midwest]

No, why would I waste my free time reading a draft of regulations which may change?

Just expect somebody else to, so you can have your queries answered. Very lazy attitude. Still frees up your time to come on here

 

[JK-Electrical]

I'm with the naysayers.

 

[buzzlightyear]

We were leading till we joined the EU, look what happened then.

yeah , and bl**dy wheels fell off.

 

[plugsandsparks]

I worked out that if both my neighbours either side of me charged up their electric vehicles over night along with mine, the supply cable in the road would melt, so i think an earth rod at every house is anticipating the inevitable... lol

 

[plugsandsparks]

I worked out that if both my neighbours either side of me charged up their electric vehicles over night along with mine, the supply cable in the road would melt, so i think an earth rod at every house is anticipating the inevitable... lol

 

[telectrix]

it's OK. a few more coal fired power stations could be built to cope with the extra demand for ELV charging. this would no only reverse all climate change policies and also revitalise the coal mining industry. everyone's a winner ( except the polar bears ).

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I'd introduce a regulation preventing the use of Hager style busbar arrangements. Today I had to dismantle the entire thing just to change two MCB's for RCBO's....and then the inevitable paranoia over whether I've got all the poxy prongs correctly located in the clamps. Resorted to a mirror in the end as usual.
I'd also have the person who designed said arrangement shot by firing squad.
That'll teach him.

 

[Midwest]

I'd introduce a regulation preventing the use of Hager style busbar arrangements. Today I had to dismantle the entire thing just to change two MCB's for RCBO's....and then the inevitable paranoia over whether I've got all the poxy prongs correctly located in the clamps. Resorted to a mirror in the end as usual.
I'd also have the person who designed said arrangement shot by firing squad.
That'll teach him.

You've got me worried, added two recently with no apparent issues

 

[UNG]

If the regs need to evolve with changing technology and the powers that be feel that they need to be changed and revised every 5 minutes why has training not followed the same route
In the 36 years since the introduction of the 15th edition the training has gone from 5 years to 5 weeks and this seems to be constantly reflected in the evolution of the regs. How can this be right in an evolving industry that needs to change it's regulations with increasing regularity to keep up with technology or is it technology we are trying to keep up with when you take into account the amendment 3 changes with metal consumer units for everything
It is difficult to quantify what effect Part P has had since it's introduction as the changes introduced in the 17th edition a couple of years later only confuse any analysis of whether safety has improved or not
The regs now seem to have a set timetable for change which is quite obviously based around revenue streams and not technology change selling a new set of books every few years and a course and exam every 10 years seems to be how we are being conditioned, any cheaper options such as loose leaf regs and guidance notes will probably not be considered as it will reduce the revenue streams needed to fund the IET juggernaut
My 14th edition regs back in 1976 and didn't change for 5 years they cost me £35 the latest set of regs, guidance notes, on site guide etc has changed 3 times since it's introduction and has probably cost at least 25 times that