2 and 3kW ovens

[pushrod]

Have read on this forum several times from experienced posters that ovens rated at 2kW must have their own circuit. However, was chatting at college to a guy who teaches some of the regs evening classes and he said that a small oven below 13A could be on a ring. Anyone shed any light or regs numbers on this?
cheers.

 

[johnnyb]

Have read on this forum several times from experienced posters that ovens rated at 2kW must have their own circuit. However, was chatting at college to a guy who teaches some of the regs evening classes and he said that a small oven below 13A could be on a ring. Anyone shed any light or regs numbers on this?
cheers.

Funnily enough we were looking at instruction booklet that has come with a brand new 2kw oven today at a site we are on, and in it on our section it actually shows a diagram of a plug top 13amp and how to wire it, so at 2kw it must be ok to be plugged in at a socket or why show the diagam at all.
Anyway we really studied the plug top bit and how to wire it.

 

[Spudnik]

And did you take note on where the lovely colours go???


Pushrod, have a look at pg 362 BRB. RFC Arrangements, particularly point (iii)

 

[johnnyb]

And did you take note on where the lovely colours go???


Pushrod, have a look at pg 362 BRB. RFC Arrangements, particularly point (iii)

Oh yes, on the ones we do in the future we are not going to throw away the cable retainer as now we can see it has a purpose, see learnt some thing else today.

 

[Spudnik]

Oh yes, on the ones we do in the future we are not going to throw away the cable retainer as now we can see it has a purpose, see learnt some thing else today.

A cable what?

 

[pushrod]

Pushrod, have a look at pg 362 BRB. RFC Arrangements, particularly point (iii)

cheers - am on tenterhooks now as i haven't got access to a regs book til monday.
Was he wrong or is it a vague one?

 

[johnnyb]

Jason
that little plasticky bit that goes over the flex on the entrance to a plug top, we will use em from monday.

 

[old dog]

as jason pointed out page 362 433.1.5 (iii)

connecting cookers,ovens and hobs with rated power exceeding 2kW on there own dedicated radial circuit

 

[johnnyb]

Yeh, can appreciate the reasons but why in there own makers installation booklet it shows a plug top, whys that my mate, in my book that means that the appliance is rated at 13amps therefore suitable for a socket.

 

[old dog]

Yeh, can appreciate the reasons but why in there own makers installation booklet it shows a plug top, whys that my mate, in my book that means that the appliance is rated at 13amps therefore suitable for a socket.

yes the socket on the dedicted circuit

 

[johnnyb]

yes the socket on the dedicted circuit

We are going to wire our oven on a dedicated circuit , but my thing is ,in the booklet installation manual, it does not say it has to be dedicated, thats my thing, it just shows a plug top, how to wire it, and that gives the impression it can be just plugged in a ring main, old dog.
When you used to get the old 3kw electric fires in the old hearths you didn,t run a dedicated circuit you just usually plugged it around the corner along with the tele, thats my point, and this is only 2kw my mate.

 

[drywax]

You'll find most cookers now come with a 13A plug top already connected and I see your point, but from my perspective, I see a kitchen ring with cooker, dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, microwave, kettle, radio, blender, fridge freezer, etc all going at once even though it has a plug top add it all together and it might just be the straw that keeps breaking the camels back

and that doesn't include a hob

 

[old dog]

We are going to wire our oven on a dedicated circuit , but my thing is ,in the booklet installation manual, it does not say it has to be dedicated, thats my thing, it just shows a plug top, how to wire it, and that gives the impression it can be just plugged in a ring main, old dog.
When you used to get the old 3kw electric fires in the old hearths you didn,t run a dedicated circuit you just usually plugged it around the corner along with the tele, thats my point, and this is only 2kw my mate.

yes sorry i am with you now. the instructions could be misleading

 

[steamboatwilly]

If the oven/hob is 'kite-marked' and the manufacturers instructions say that the supply can come via a 13-amp plug doesn't that get us around the Regulations for a separate supply?

Understand the separate point about overloading the kitchen RFC though.

 

[Spudnik]

Come on chaps.

The whole point of dedicated circuit even if it is 13A, is to prevent the RFC from being loaded for prolonged periods of time.

The times of "we used to plug heaters etc" is no longer valid as many more appliances are now in the home.