2 gang socket wiring.

[Mazak]

Maybe obvious, but are any regulations how to fit earth cables?
They always say all must be terminated to back box.
So when 2 cables coming to the box 3 wires sleaved with green/yellow should be inside.
1 of them ending in back box?
Right?
I hope you understand me.
I will make picture later.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Right, that's 2 gang sockets dealt with...
What about 1 gang sockets?

 

[Guest77]

Pointless, I never use them lol

 

[Micklane]

Really?? I can't remember a project that i've ever worked on from the 80's to the present where fly leads from the faceplate to the back boxes haven't been called for, and not just for socket outlets either!!

Which country do you work in, that is so uninformed? The design of U.K. 13A socket outlets is such that there is adequate contact, by means of contact to the metal bridgework behind the screws, and the fixing box metal screws. As there are usually 2 points of connection for cpc's inside a socket outlet, there is no requirement for earthing fly leads to the body of the box. This dates users of this practice, and probably went out at the same time as twisting cpc connections, and using a common sleeve.

Regards

 

[shanky887614]

Which country do you work in, that is so uninformed? The design of U.K. 13A socket outlets is such that there is adequate contact, by means of contact to the metal bridgework behind the screws, and the fixing box metal screws. As there are usually 2 points of connection for cpc's inside a socket outlet, there is no requirement for earthing fly leads to the body of the box. This dates users of this practice, and probably went out at the same time as twisting cpc connections, and using a common sleeve.

Regards

you follow the spec you have been given or it will be charged for another company to correct it

 

[Micklane]

Very cheap double sockets have one earth terminal, very cheap ones, 90 pence from CEF lol, most double sockets which are over a quid have 2 pmsl.

As I remember, high integrity circuits such as those for computers, with leakage currents in excess of 10mA require 2 points of connection for cpc's at socket outlets .......... and also at C.U.'s. Sockets outlets with one point of cpc connection, could not be used on a high integrity circuit. Now then, how would you cater for this requirement at the earth bar of a CU, and maintain the order sequence w.r.t. the Lives?

Regards

 

[Micklane]

If a spec is issued calling for pigtails, a word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA: You may just get brownie points!

Regards

 

[Micklane]

A word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA:

Regards

 

[Engineer54]

If a spec is issued calling for pigtails, a word in the ear of the specifier should be made, to have the anomaly corrected, especially if registration is applicable; if necessary get confirmation from a maker such as MK, the NICEIC or NAPIT. :coolgleamA: You may just get brownie points!

Regards

And what anomaly would that be?? It's a good working practice (now that is something that could be said belongs in the past!!). I take it you are far more qualified than Electrical design Engineers yes?? The very last people i'd take any advice from, is NICEIC/NAPIT or any other scam operator or indeed, anyone suggesting their advice to be sort/taken!!

 

[Mazak]

It is going to be off topic, so as I understood there is no detailed requirements to that subject.
Thanks everybody.

 

[driverman]

As I remember, high integrity circuits such as those for computers, with leakage currents in excess of 10mA require 2 points of connection for cpc's at socket outlets .......... and also at C.U.'s. Sockets outlets with one point of cpc connection, could not be used on a high integrity circuit. Now then, how would you cater for this requirement at the earth bar of a CU, and maintain the order sequence w.r.t. the Lives?

Regards

Lol..I have always wondered that, as it puts it OUT of sequence