how dare you.
Had to cover their ears
Shh he didn't mean it. He's just old and hasn't caught up with the times
Thou shalt not dis your elders or any more of us unfortunate souls
Doddy d
In the realms of safety and good practice with these push fit items,the chances are (in the past) they would not have been entertained (until these days where deterioration of product standards have opened a door for them)
In fact I believe the general shambolic standards of equipment has degenerated to a point where comparison with past equipment standard can hardly be made,
These items are acceptable only because in the words of the thread "Forgive them Lord for they know no better"