2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March 1st

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

Can I ask for advice relating to the Green Deal and prospects for increased business. Being an accredited heatpump installer and having had recent setbacks I am looking to increase the prospects for my company. I suspect the role of the energy assessors could be important and I would like to know whether this would benefit my company. I am looking to increase services we provide as per the green deal list on the NAPIT website. Any advice would be appreciated

Regards

sbrown2

Final decisions are still to be made on The Green Deal, there is a view that MCS Certification should be accepted as equivalence to whatever is decided on the installation side. It was certainly part of the consultation document that ISO 9001 would be accepted. However, this may be different for the Assessor side.


If you are an MCS Certificated Heat Pump installer, your procedures would cover all you do from beginning to end in regard to a Heat Pump Installation. If you where interested in the energy assessing side you would need to write additional procedures to cover this, with plenty of reference to the "Golden Rule" etc.


We are still awaiting final details on how all this is going to be governed, but we will be keeping our ear to the ground and be ready to go when required. If you want us to keep you in touch with developments you can register your interest at www.greendealcertified.com

 

[MartinSigsworth]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

What is this MCS QMS????


How does it affect me in Canada?

 

[lucky13]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I am sure you can use sub contractors as long as they are "competent and or suitably trained
" i would assume you would be checking and testing their works and if any good could therefore become your aproved subcontractor.
All main contractors use sub contarctors last year we were working for carilion as a sub contractor. the industry in general could not survive if every one had to be employed.
I would make sure they have the appopriate certificates and insurances in place and make up a basic subcontractor pack
Hope this helps some

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I am sure you can use sub contractors as long as they are "competent and or suitably trained
" i would assume you would be checking and testing their works and if any good could therefore become your aproved subcontractor.
All main contractors use sub contarctors last year we were working for carilion as a sub contractor. the industry in general could not survive if every one had to be employed.
I would make sure they have the appopriate certificates and insurances in place and make up a basic subcontractor pack
Hope this helps some

Lucky

That seems to sum it up perfectly!

When you ask someone to carry out something on your behalf you should be able to provide evidence as to why they where competent to do it.

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

What is this MCS QMS????


How does it affect me in Canada?

Martin

Fortunately not one little bit!

 

[leremangu]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

what is it all about? is it for everybodyand where will it be held

 

[isitintheregs]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I have read through this thread in response to an email notification that you were here and am now thoroughly confused. I am a sole trader (in the literal sense, I am on my own) as an electrician. I have been phoned up several times in the past to do PV installations "in my area", by individuals setting themselves up a accredited installers. To date I have turned down all these approaches and having read this I am glad I did. The desk time needed per installation seems disproportionate to the "work" done and the income gained. By desk time I include training, upgrades, paperwork etc. etc. In now looking into what is involved I now find myself completely baffled as to the difference between Easy MCS and http://www.microgenerationcertification.org/installers/certification-bodies. I can find no mention of yourselves or are you and MCS one and the same?

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I have read through this thread in response to an email notification that you were here and am now thoroughly confused. I am a sole trader (in the literal sense, I am on my own) as an electrician. I have been phoned up several times in the past to do PV installations "in my area", by individuals setting themselves up a accredited installers. To date I have turned down all these approaches and having read this I am glad I did. The desk time needed per installation seems disproportionate to the "work" done and the income gained. By desk time I include training, upgrades, paperwork etc. etc. In now looking into what is involved I now find myself completely baffled as to the difference between Easy MCS and The Microgeneration Certification Scheme - Certification Bodies. I can find no mention of yourselves or are you and MCS one and the same?

We are a company who help businesses large and small to gain MCS Certification - we are not the MCS Scheme. We put together your Quality Management System for you, which is usually the main thing that stops, certainly one man bands, going for certification. We assign you a mentor who will guide you through all the requirements, including the competancies you would need to have in place. We don't leave you until you have passed, and will help you with any Non conformities the assessor may raise.

If you need any further details or clarifications please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

[Eco Deal]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

Passed our second MCS with NO N/C's !

paper work and jobs spot on

 

[SolarCity]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

Congrats fella

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

Passed our second MCS with NO N/C's !

paper work and jobs spot on

Well done!

 

[sbrown2]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I've had a solar job that the customer has pulled out of. Are their any sites/companies that can help with attaining the leads for accreditation purposes. I'm in the East Midlands Area.

Regards

 

[flamefix]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

Adam


Since 1st Feb this has changed. You are now required to register the advance payment and, in QANW's case, pay £26.50 to cover both the deposit and the Warranty period. You must not sell this insurance to the client or advise on its suitability, as you are not registered to do so with the FSA.

So what happens where you don't take a deposit? you don't require the deposit protection ergo the insurance is not a mandatory facility to provide, if one is not allowed to sell it..?

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

I've had a solar job that the customer has pulled out of. Are their any sites/companies that can help with attaining the leads for accreditation purposes. I'm in the East Midlands Area.

Regards

I can't help with finding you a customer, but it may be worth me mentioning that since December 2011 any company that enters into a contract with a domestic client must be MCS Certified. If the company is not entering into the contract with the client, but is passing you a lead, then you are required to ensure that they have followed the REAL Code. All installation companies should be aware, that if they issue the MCS Certificate then they are responsible for the whole process, installation and sales.

 

[EasyMCSLtd]

Re: 2 Weeks of MCS Accreditation Talk - Gaining MCS & Maintaining MCS - Expires March

So what happens where you don't take a deposit? you don't require the deposit protection ergo the insurance is not a mandatory facility to provide, if one is not allowed to sell it..?

This has only come in a couple of weeks ago, the advice we are giving is that you should still register the installation with QANW or your own insurer so that the warranty side is covered.