2330 or Part P and 17th Ed? (URGENT)

Bane · Aug 27, 2008

Hi people,

Well as some of you may and may not know, I am due to enrol on college tomorrow for my 2330.

Now, everything was fine up until 30mins ago when I spoke to an electrician and he reckons I'm wasting my time doing the 2330.

He reckons I'd be better off doing my Part P then my 17th Edition first. Get some work and see where I go from there.

Found this link for the Part P:
Bpec Part P Electrical Course (Full Scope) - PPL Training

Now bear in mind, it's going to cost me almost a grand for my first year of the 2330 and for the same price I can get my Part P done in 6 days!?!

Needless to say guys and girls this has thrown a spanner in the works and messed with my head a little.

What do you guys suggest?

Part P and 17th Edition or 2330 and 3-4yrs at college?

Can I go into the Part P 'cold' as it were?
(My experience is limited to trunking/tray/basket/conduit etc. Never done calculations etc but I'm academically confident)

Advice needed ASAP please!

*Can't believe been told this a day before I'm due to sign up and pay course fees*

Bane · Aug 28, 2008

gt67 said:
Bane, which year are these costs for ?

C&G2330 L1, L2 or L3

There is no level 1. Do you mean year 1?

Yes, for the first year.

gt67 · Aug 28, 2008

Bane said:
There is no level 1. Do you mean year 1?

Yes, for the first year.

Yeah, meant Year 1

Thanks

Bane · Sep 1, 2008

Quick update.

College phoned me on Friday to enrol.

Did it.

Start on Mon 8th Sept.

Only ended up costing me £240! (Because i's my first NVQ)

Very impressed! All I need now is a job

tony.towa · Sep 2, 2008

Glad you got things sorted and you got a good price.

Any questions just post them on the forum and we will try to answer them, but as you got the course cheap it will cost you!!!!!!

bobajob · Sep 2, 2008

£240???

I start my 2330 year one on 15th September. It's cost me £802 for the first year and it's my first course too. I was told if I had no GCSE's I could get both years of level 2 for free!!! But because I worked hard at school I have to pay full price.

There has already been a thread on the silly price increases. It's because the government have pulled the plug on funding for higher education. Anything from level 3 is now full price. and upto level 2 can only be part funded by the government. Unless, as I said, you are on benefits or were a lazy oike at school and didn't bother to pass any exams.

montybaber · Sep 2, 2008

Its always been the same, always remember the young wasters from my school with a criminal record getting shipped off to southampton FC for the day for a training session with le tissier etc to try and motivate them to do better whilst all the hard working kids sat at school dead p***ed off!!!

I know its not relevent but my point is I really dont think it pays to try hard! why should you get it any cheaper if you wasted your education, should have to pay more to give some back in my opinion

but thats just me

Bane · Sep 2, 2008

Well, I'm one of those that got it cheaper for wasting my education!

Thanks for your words tony.towa and don't worry, I'll get you a beer if we ever do meet

Right, in front of me I have the college policy on fees etc.

LEARNERS OVER 19 - FULL TIME

Full time learners (450hrs or more) on a means tested benefit (On dole, housing benefit etc) with a household income of LESS than £15,050 (subject to change)

No tuition fees to pay (£520)
Upto £67.50 towards the cost of all exam fees (£200), balance payable by student. You must apply to the Learner Support Fund for this.

Learner Support Fund: Upto £225 for academic year. Depending on course you may receive eqpt. instead of money

Transport: If you live more than 3miles from college you receive 65% discount on smartcards bought from college.

FULL TIME LEARNERS NOT ON BENEFIT WITH A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF LESS THAN £19,513 (single students) OR £30,810 FOR STUDENTS MARRIED/LIVING WITH A PARTNER.

TUITION FEES: £400 if commencing in 08/09
£250 if progressing onto year2 of course you started in 07

EXAM FEES: Payable by you in full

LEARNER SUPPORT FUND: Upto £225 for academic year. Depending on course you may receive eqpt. instead of money

TRANSPORT: If you live more than 3miles from college you receive 65% discount on smartcards bought from college.

FULL TIME LEARNERS NOT ON BENEFIT WITH AN INCOME OF MORE THAN £19,513 OR £30,810.

NOTHING, NICHE, NADA.

LEARNERS OVER 19 - PART TIME

Part time learners on a means tested benefit (On dole, housing benefit etc) with a household income of LESS than £15,050 (subject to change)

TUITION FEES: None (£520)

EXAM FEE: Upto £67.50 towards the cost of all exam fees (£200), balance payable by student. You must apply to the Learner Support Fund for this.

Learner Support Fund: You will receive 50p per guided learning hour.

Transport: No help

PART TIME LEARNERS NOT ON BENEFIT WITH A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF LESS THAN £19,513 (single students) OR £30,810 FOR STUDENTS MARRIED/LIVING WITH A PARTNER.

TUITION FEES: Payable by you

EXAM FEES: Payable by you in full

LEARNER SUPPORT FUND: You will receive 50p per guided learning hour.

TRANSPORT: No help.

PART TIME LEARNERS NOT ON BENEFIT WITH AN INCOME OF MORE THAN £19,513 OR £30,810.

NOTHING, NICHE, NADA.

Hope this has helped some of you guys.

mog · Sep 2, 2008

your taking the right route Bane, good luck

sparky1ste · Sep 2, 2008

hi when 2330 first started it was five days a week level 1+2 thnen day release for a year.now i think its gone to level 2 and last for a college term then level 3.within in this time you will learn practical and alot of theory.the point i'm trying to make is you can go on a five day course and get part p etc.but you are putting lives at risk because you dont know the understanding of electrics.people like kitchen fitters for eg.[sorry kitchen fitters]think that because they can sign of kitchen sockets that they fully qualified electricians and start taking on re-wires etc. IS PAR P A GOOD THING? - NO IT LET IN EVEN MORE COWBOYS. do the right thing and go through the training.

Bane · Sep 3, 2008

Cheers mog (not related to moog by any chance?)

benzu · Sep 3, 2008

Do ur 17th regs, if u got ur NVQ2 + NVQ3, not sure what they are in C&G electrical installation ref. numbers. Don't do the part P course its a money maker.

Part P is a registration.
That will cover you to work for yourself, if you wanna starting fitting electrical extractor fans then you NEED to get another document - Part L or something.

TPES · Sep 5, 2008

Hi

I Am also on the 2330 in my 2nd year now, Just under a grand for the first year is very expensive, my college was less than half that for the first year, and 2nd year is even cheaper, which college have you enrolled at?

I also think your doing the right thing by doing the 2330, I have been taught alot by my college.

Stick with it and let me know how your getting on.

Bane · Sep 5, 2008

Cheers Sid.

Hull College. (Don't laugh)

Jutt · Sep 7, 2008

Well done bane mate, stick with the 2330 about to start first year myself as an adult learner on thurs!! I did my part p & 17th on a intensive course but only used it as a stepping stone to get me a baseground for a sparks mate job & had every intention of getting properly qualified by doing 2330 got to be the best route for knowledge than the 5 day wonders i did to start with.