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Just wondered if any other guys are currently doing the 2391-20 project Downtown Fire Station?

Issues lay with
The duel fed lights I'm thinking of a 4 pole contactor??? located within the control room any thoughts
My installation is going to be mainly Galvanised Trunking and Conduit chased into the blockwork walls.
Any thoughts on the 12v SELV Socket outlets not something im familiar with???

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I'm also signed up to do this (not starting till December though).
I'll be more than happy to offer my input as well, but I don't have any of the project info yet, I'll chase it up.
 
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I'm doing the course at the minute aswell but haven't got round to the call lighting yet! What have you been told about the deadline for the project? Exam on December 6th yeh? Do you have any past papers/good handouts for the course you could share? Many thanks
 
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This is a pretty old paper but pretty sure it may be a good indication of the type of questions you will get. Hope it helps


2400 Design Erection & Verification.

Question 1. Please answer neatly below the question & on additional sheet if needed…

You are called to a Public House where a circuit containing six 70watt & three 85Watt SON-T light fittings has
ceased to function.
You inspect the circuit and find it is wired in 1mm 3-core PVC/SWA cable, clipped direct to the outside wall. The
fuse at the DB is of a fairly old type (Wylex Re-wirable BS3036) which has been rated at 5Amps.
The distance from the DB to the furthest fitting is 27m, and Ze is recorded at 0.21Ù.


i) Determine if the cable being used would be deemed sufficient.

ii) Determine if the Zs at the furthest point complies with BS7671 after the Rule of thumb has been
applied.

iii) Determine if the Earth conductor currently being used is large enough.

iv) Explain which document you would complete at this stage & any (short) comments you might
enter onto it if any of the above is seen not to comply.

(10 Marks)

Question 2. Please answer the question neatly below & on additional sheet if needed…
You may use BS7671:2001, The On Site Guide &/or the IEE Guidance Notes 3.


a)
Describe One Method suitable for the verification of CPC Continuity for a Radial Circuit which is 35m long,
wired in 6mm single core thermoplastic (pvc)-insulated cable (non-armoured) installed in a conduit together
with a 1.5mm cpc. (2 Marks)

b) Indicate the acceptable cpc resistance value for the above circuit.
(3 Marks)

c) If the method described for (b) incorporated the use of the phase conductor, explain
i) What the test instrument reading indicates
ii) Where this reading may come into use in further tests being carried out, and why the
ambient temperature at the time of the test is important to note.
(3 Marks)

d)
If the conduit where to be used in place of the copper cpc and there was some doubt as to the suitability of this,
explain what test instrument would be used to verify the conduits continuity. (2 Marks)

Question 3. Please answer the question neatly below & on additional sheet if needed…
You may use BS7671:2001, The On Site Guide &/or the IEE Guidance Notes 3.

A bus depot compound has workshops and garages which hold a high pressure
washing / valeting provision for the vehicles. Explain the design criteria for this area
with regard to EACH of the following:


a) Access to road lighting (3 Marks)

b) Security lighting for the entire compound (2 Marks)

c) Electrical Services in the individual workshops (3 Marks)

d) Electrical Services within the area that washing & valeting takes place (2 Marks)


Question 4. Please answer the question neatly below & on additional sheet if needed…
You may use BS7671:2001, The On Site Guide &/or the IEE Guidance Notes 3.

A large ‘Country Pub’ is to have the entire exterior floodlit by 25 x 350 Watt high-pressure Sodium (SON)
floodlights. These are to be mounted on a perimeter wall surrounding the building at a level of 1m from f.f.l. &
some 10 meters from the perimeter of the main structure. If the supply is 400V, 50Hz, Three phase & neutral,
forming part of a TNC-S system, and the exterior walls of the building to be lit measure 40 m x 30 m, without
showing regard for detailed lighting design.


a) Indicate how the lighting may be distributed around the building perimeter. (2 Marks)

b) With reference to maintainability, state a suitable wiring system and method (3 Marks)
of installation.

c) Detail the switching & control equipment that would be employed, presuming
contactors are to be used to bring the lighting on in three stages. (5 Marks)

Question 5. Please answer the question neatly below & on additional sheet if needed…
You may use BS7671:2001, The On Site Guide &/or the IEE Guidance Notes 3.

A Laboratory, used for the repair of IT & telecommunication equipment along with the repair of VDU’s and TV
receivers, has bench supplies at 230V, 50Hz, using an isolating transformer to provide protection by ‘Electrical
Separation’.


Detail 5 design criteria in order for this installation to comply fully with BS7671:2001.
 
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Malcolm many thanks most are in the revision question already issued nice to get any extra info. I think get the exam done then worry about the project. 12v selv socket ???. Any ideas on the site Temps thinking of a generator to supply the offices and site 110v supplies. Untill the incoming serviceis installed. Then changing to a temp db.
 
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Hi,
I am doing the same project. You can use a dali lighting system for the lighting. Type dali into google brings up loads of lights. i have done the written exam last tue seemed ok. Just struggling with the project can any 1 help.
 
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hi fellas. Ive started to look at the project. All ive done so far is get the drawings photocopied, and mark 1 up with room dimensions to aid me late.

Ive started to try and find twin 58w 1800 fittings, but 1800 fittings are 2x 70w. Also what do they mean by dual supply. i was thinking, just running a second switchlive through a contactor in the control room, and taking the switch for the contactor coil from one of the switchlives, that is going to be run through the contactor.

has emergency lighting got to be included in the installation?
do we have to allow for heating/ventilation in max demand calcs, and in DB schedule?
same as above but with security, fire ect?
 
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hi fellas. Ive started to look at the project. All ive done so far is get the drawings photocopied, and mark 1 up with room dimensions to aid me late.

Ive started to try and find twin 58w 1800 fittings, but 1800 fittings are 2x 70w. Also what do they mean by dual supply. i was thinking, just running a second switchlive through a contactor in the control room, and taking the switch for the contactor coil from one of the switchlives, that is going to be run through the contactor.

has emergency lighting got to be included in the installation?
do we have to allow for heating/ventilation in max demand calcs, and in DB schedule?
same as above but with security, fire ect?


Good good :hurray:, I should be receiving the project next week hopefully. I'm off work now till next year so this would be a nice distraction from all the x-mas stuff going on.

Excuse me for asking but how much did this course cost?

I'm not attending a course so cannot help you with that one mate, technically it's costing me about £50 for registration etc direct with C&G.
 
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