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JUNE 2010:

Section B:

The owner of a small industrial unit requires an additional exterior lighting circuit to be installed for security purposes. At the same time the existing electrical installation is to be inspected and tested in order to obtain insurance cover for the premises.

The electrical installation forms part of a 400/230 V TN-C-S system with a Ze of 0.1Ω and a PFC of 4.6 kA. The existing installation comprises 70 °C
thermoplastic insulated single core copper cables contained within a steel trunking and conduit containment system.
A separated cpc is installed for each circuit and is contained within the trunking and conduit.

The three-phase DB is located at the origin of the installation and contains a mixture of BS EN 60898 circuit breakers and BS EN 61009 RCBOs.

Figure 1 Below shows information on the resistance of conductors in m
Ω/m
______________________________________
Conductor csa (mm2) | m
Ω/m at 20°C
_________________________________
1.5 .......................12.10
2.5 .......................7.41
4.0 .......................4.61
6.0 .......................3.08
10.0 .....................1.83
_________________________________

1.
a) List the documents that must be completed and issued to the client on the completion of the electrical work.

b) List the parties who would be involved in determining the extent and limitation of the inspection and testing of the existing installation.

c) state where the decision reached in (b) above is to be recorded.

d) state the
i) title given in law to the inspector.
ii) legal status of the inspector.

e) List three items of information which must be available to the inspector regarding the distribution network operator's equipment.
_____________________________________________________________________________

2.
a) One part of the building has an area where chemical etching and washing down takes place.

i) List three factors which must be considered when inspecting the containment system in this particular area.

ii) Identify, for each of the factors given in (ai) above, the human senses that would best determine compliance.

b) The owner has agreed that the whole installation may be isolated in order for testing to be carried out. There has been period of one hour
allocated for this work.
List the tests that must be carried out during this period (individual circuits may be isolated after this period)
___________________________________________________________________________________

3. A test of continuity is to be carried out on the main protective bonding conductor to the gas service located 30 (m) from the origin of the
installation.
Describe how this test is to be carried out after safe isolation has been completed. your answer should include

a) initial safety precautions
b) instrument used
c) test procedure
d) final safety procedures.
_________________________________________________________________________________

4. A continuity of ring circuit conductors test is to be carried out on the circuit supplying the office.
The circuit is wired in 2.5 mm2 cable with a 1.5 mm2 CPC. The loop length of the cable is 65 m. All socket outlets are connected directly on the
ring.
Explain in detail, using the information given in figure 1, the three steps required to confirm the continuity of this circuit.
your explanation should include the
. Test instrument
. Test connections and the expected reading at each stage.
Show all calculations.
________________________________________________________________________________

5. Draw a fully labelled diagram showing the complete earth fault loop path for the newly installed lighting circuit. the diagram should identify the
a) Correct system
b) Complete fault path
c) All the component parts of the earth fault loop.
_________________________________________________________________________________

6. During the course of the inspection one of the single phase radial circuits supplying an item of fixed equipment is to be checked for voltage
drop compliance. The circuit has the following characteristics.
. Load current = 45 A
. Circuit length = 80 m
. Live conductors = 10 mm2

a) Using the information in figure 1 determine whether the circuit meets the requirements for voltage drop. show all calculations.

b) State
i) A suitable observation to be recorded on the periodic report if the voltage drop fails to comply.

ii) One action which could be taken to rectify the situation in (b,i) above.
 
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Zenn you have approached this forum in the correct manner. Well done sir.

When you post up these questions please have a go at answering them and let us correct you when your wrong. We are happy to help but we are not here to do your homework.

Zenn you've got our attention so don't waist it.
 
b) State two items that would be checked during the inspection of the new lighting installation containment system stating what is being checked for in each case.
choosing the correct switches and conductor size.

What has conductor size and switch got to do with th containment system? try BS standard of containment system?


BS number on conduit does is comply wit Appendix 1 of BS7671?
What is the length of run and number of bends? does it meet the requierments?
How many cables are in the containment? Does that comply with spacing factor?



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a) Determine the voltage drop for the circuit if the combined measured resistance of the line and neutral conductors is 0.38 (Ω) and the load current of the motor is 30 (A).

b) Determine whether the voltage drop calculated in (a) above meets the requirements of BS 7671.


Easy marks this one! work out voltage drop Vd= IxLxOhms/1000 (remember resistance is in milli ohms)

Check this as a percentage of the supply voltage power 5% lights 3 % if under that no problem .

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2.
a) One part of the building has an area where chemical etching and washing down takes place.

i) List three factors which must be considered when inspecting the containment system in this particular area.

ii) Identify, for each of the factors given in (ai) above, the human senses that would best determine compliance.

b) The owner has agreed that the whole installation may be isolated in order for testing to be carried out. There has been period of one hour
allocated for this work.
List the tests that must be carried out during this period (individual circuits may be isolated after this period)


Another one for easy marks!

Its says chemical etching and washdown so

Suitabuity of containment so IP rating if there is water jets?
Suitability against corrosion? PVC conduit as metal rusts anc corrodes very fast
RCD protection as it will be a special location with water jets (think showers)


all the above is a visual inspection


Inspection and testing.

A true Ze,PFC,PSCC can only be done with main bonds disconnected so full shutdown.
Main bond resistance?
Full insulation resistance can be done if you follow section 2 of GN3 and disconnect imcomming Neutral. Connect line conductors together and test to the main earth point. Be wary of paralell resistances as it will drastically affect readings. It means you do not have to disconnect all lights and equipment suseptable to Insulation testing but has to be noted on limitations.







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Zenn you have approached this forum in the correct manner. Well done sir.

When you post up these questions please have a go at answering them and let us correct you when your wrong. We are happy to help but we are not here to do your homework.

Zenn you've got our attention so don't waist it.
I am really happy to hear this man, I'm off from work next week for 10 days just for this exam lol. Ill try to answer them tomorrow when i got back from my work.
 
because they changed it to 2394 and 2395 and also I have failed twice before. do you want to go through the exam paper that I have posted and check our answers ? I can post section A as well on here.
 
December 2011

Section (A)

1. The inspection of an electrical installation is being undertaken as part of the initial verification. state three conditions which must be verified, as far as is reasonably practical, during this inspection.

Answer :From Chapter 61 (Red Book)
611.2 The inspection shall be made to verify that the installed electrical equipment is:
i) in compliance with Section 511 (this may be ascertained by mark or by certification furnished by the installer or by the manufacturer), and
ii) correctly selected and erected in accordance with the regulations, and
iii) not visibly damaged or defective so as to impair safety.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
2) State:

a) one statutory document
b) two non-statutory publications
to which the inspector may refer whilst carrying out an inspection and test of an electrical installation.


Answer:
a) Three main Statutory documents are:
The Health and safety at Work Act 1974 (HASWA)
The Electricity at Work Regulations 1989 (EAWR)
The Building Regulations Part P 2000

b) BS 7671:2008 Requirements for Electrical Installations
Guidance Note GS38 on Test Equipment
On-Site-Guide
Guidance Note 1-7
Code of Practice for in-Service testing of portable appliances.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________
3. State
a) two supply parameters which can only be obtained by enquiry to the Distribution Network Operator(DNO)
b) one supply parameter which may be obtained from either the DNO or measured by the inspector.


Answer:
a) any of this below:
The maximum Prospective short-circuit current at the supply terminals
The maximum earth loop impedance of the earth fault path outside the installation (Ze)
The type and rating of the distributors protective device or devices nearest to the supply terminals
The type of earthing system applicable to the connection
The number of phases of the supply
The frequency of the supply and the extent of the permitted variations
The voltage of the supply and the extent of the permitted variations.

b) I'm thinking of : The Earth fault loop impedance or The prospective short-circuit current.
________________________________________________________________________________________________
4. State the purpose of an initial verification process as identified in guidance note 3.

Answer :
To ensure equipment and accessories are to relevant BS or BSEN standards.
To prove compliance with BS 7671.
To ensure that the installation is not damaged so as to impair safety.
________________________________________________________________________________________________
5. State the three considerations which must be made when work is to be undertaken on or near live electrical equipment.

Answer: Correct me on this one
from EWR :
No person shall be engaged in any work activity on or so near a live conductor(other than one suitable covered with an insulating material so as to prevent danger) that danger may arise unless:
a) it is unreasonable in all circumstances for the system to be dead,
b) it is reasonable in all circumstances for the person to be at work on or near it whiles it is live; and
c) suitable precautions (including where necessary the provision of suitable protective equipment) are taken to prevent injury.

for live working to take place, each of the terms listed above must be complied with. In effect, a clear risk assessment must be made regarding the safety of any live working.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
6. State for each of the following which instrument will have been used when the measured result is
a: 28 (ms)
b) 2.5 (kA)
c) 120 (ohm)
Answer:
a) RCD tester
b) Prospective fault current tester
c)Earth electrode resistance tester
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
7. List, in the correct sequence, the first three tests to be carried out on a newly installed ring final circuit.

Answer:
i) Continuity of ring final circuit conductors
ii) insulation resistance
iii) Polarity
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
8. The resistance of a length of single conductor is 0.8 (ohm). Calculate the resistance of this conductor in ohm when the
a) length is doubled
b) length and csa are both halved
c) csa is doubled


Answer:
a) Double
b) same
c) half
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 
6
C- low resistance ohm meter?

7
I- continuity of cpc
ii- continuity of ring final circuit conductors
iii- insulation resistance

8
the question asks for the answer in ohms.....
 
Beware!
I'm not an expert and I only have 2392 but I can spot a trap when I see one :)

The resistance figure you are given is for 20degs. You need to convert this to 70degs to take account of the 10amps.

Laurie




Easy marks this one! work out voltage drop Vd= IxLxOhms/1000 (remember resistance is in milli ohms)

Check this as a percentage of the supply voltage power 5% lights 3 % if under that no problem .

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In reality you should read the OSG page 89-107, GN3 and BS7671 part 6 and appendix 6 for the model forms also the IET 2391 exam success book all the answers are within these books.
 
Zenn, I don't want to put you down mate, you're obviously an intelligent guy who wants change and opportunities like most of us. A word of advice, a good mate makes a good spark, a good spark makes a good tester/ designer, a... makes a good engineer. If you jump the gun, you'll have holes in your knowledge and experience. Make sure you cover it on site as well as reading the regs. There's no quick fix. Gifted you may be, but money can't buy experience. Good luck!
 
Definition of competent in BS7671 A person who possesses sufficient technical knowledge, relevant practical skills and experience for the nature of the electrical work undertaken no mention of qualifications at all. I agree with loop3 totally start off as a mate/improver and get all of the above.
 
Zenn, I don't want to put you down mate, you're obviously an intelligent guy who wants change and opportunities like most of us. A word of advice, a good mate makes a good spark, a good spark makes a good tester/ designer, a... makes a good engineer. If you jump the gun, you'll have holes in your knowledge and experience. Make sure you cover it on site as well as reading the regs. There's no quick fix. Gifted you may be, but money can't buy experience. Good luck!

so what is your suggestion mate? how can I find a job as an electrician?
 

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