2394/5 Chief Examiners Report

casfan · Oct 13, 2014

Hi All

I've found online the Chief Examiners Reports for the 2394/5 for the last 4 Exams, it contains pass rates and feedback on the answers given. I'm gonna have a look through them and see how I would have got on.

2394:

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2394-302-chief-examiners-report-december-2013.pdf

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2394-302-chief-examiners-report-february-2014.pdf

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2394-302-chief-examiners-report-april-2014.pdf

http://cdn.cityandguilds.com/Produc...2394-302_Chief_Examiners_Report_June_2014.pdf

2395:

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2395-302-chief-examiners-report-december-2013.pdf

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2395-302-chief-examiners-report-february-2014.pdf

http://www.ett-ni.org/media/2395-302-chief-examiners-report-april-2014.pdf

These are available online so I'm assuming it's OK to post links to them in here.

Paul.M · Oct 13, 2014

Absolutely fine Casfan (unlucky in the final btw

)

Made this thread a sticky, lot of useful feed back from C&G of why candidates were getting the answers wrong. Well worth reading through them and not making the same mistakes.

Anything that is not clear or not easily understood please feel free to ask. C&G's are not the best at "straight forward talk"

casfan · Oct 13, 2014

Thanks for your reply Paul, best team won on the day (plenty of practice in previous years must have helped).

I'm taking the 2394/5 written exams next week and revising for them which is how I came across the above reports. I'm also looking through GN3, a C & G exam success guide and Kitchers Guide to Inspection, Testing and Certification. If I do a thread for each report that I go through and answer the questions that I can and see if anybody can answer the questions I'm struggling with is that OK?

It feels like i'm asking for the answers but it does seem with C & G that knowing the answers is only half way there, you've got to phrase how they want.

Paul.M · Oct 13, 2014

"Thanks for your reply Paul, best team won on the day (plenty of practice in previous years must have helped)."

A sly little dig there :ihih: I like it lol.

As for anything you want to ask about, fire away. That is what we are here for. One little rule we have is that we are not here to do your homework. Have a go at it, try to work it out yourself first.

casfan · Oct 13, 2014

Will do, Sounds like a good rule. I don't think I need my home work doing just somebody to tell me if it's right, wrong or needs rephrasing for C & G. If it's wrong I need to keep looking until I get it right.

SirKit Breaker · Dec 8, 2014

C&G chief examiners reports.

All are freely available on their website. Go to their home page, in the search box type 2394 or 2395, from the drop down menu select documents, and the chief examiners reports. You can also see the next exam dates. If you need a resit, you need to get your centre to register you before the first monday of the month before the month of the exam or you will incur late registration fees, and they aint cheap. So if you want to sit the Feb exam, you will have to be registered by the 5th Jan.

Cheers.............Howard

SirKit Breaker · Dec 12, 2014

2394 and 2395 exams are not difficult, but they are tricky. I know someone who marks them.

The first phase is the paper gets looked at and scanned over, does it look acceptable and is it legible, do certain words expected in the answers actually appear. If so it goes to the next stage, if it is scrawl, unreadable, lots of crossing out, and have loads of paper attached it gets binned, and you have a fail.

It then gets read through properly, and if answers are getting detail and terminology in, then great, if the answers are good quality, and the examiner starts to build up a picture that the person answering them actually knows what they are talking about, then minor misdemeanors with terminology and explanations will be overlooked, and put down to exam nerves, and you will pass.

I have noticed that all 2394 and 2395 papers have about 20 to 40% repetition from exam to exam, and in all of them there are a hell of a lot of easy marks available that get missed because of missing simple steps out of test procedures, it isn't that you don't do these things at work, it is because you have to get it down on paper, and this is not a normal thing to do.

Classic things are marks dropped when describing in detail a test such as a Continuity test of a CPC.

Before we even test the CPC, the instrument needs a visual check, its battery condition must be OK, it must have current calibration and a functional test needs to be carried out, then the leads need to be nulled. Then you describe the test. At least 2 or 3 easy marks are dropped on every similar question.

The easiest 15 marks on the exam are "state 5 things to be inspected, what you are checking for, and what sense are you using" and it can be trunking, tray work, armoured glands etc. Just think about what you do in the real world and write it down.

A lot of marks are dropped by people mentioning testing when the question is specific to inspection.

Other marks are dropped particularly on the 2395 due to safety considerations, and there is always a question about what do you prior to carrying out a dead test, or carrying out a RCD test, SEEK PERMISSION TO ISOLATE, this is a stock answer to any question where disconnection is needed or may occur as a result of you doing a test.

I could go on and on and on, but try to think everything through properly and in a sensible sequence, and you not be far away.

Cheers...........Howard