2396 design course.

[rich.250]

Does anyone know when this is starting?
It's going to be a level 4 qualification so worth waiting me thinks.
Thanks

 

[a1guvner]

Thats the one im hanging out for as well,

 

[alanl]

I took the first exam last night.

It was far harder than previous 2391-20 papers had led us all (on the course) to believe.10 questions (broken into smaller bits), with 20 marks for each question total. 3 hours exam.Old 2391-20 paper asked "Give 4 ways of shock protection", 2396 paper said "Give 4 ways of shock protection in detail, with examples of their use". All of the questions (bar 1 or 2 minor 2 point queries) were in a similars vein, in asking for detailed descriptions and everyday practicalities of their use.

There was far more writing than expected, with little use of diagrams - just the one diagram iirc of a meshed bonded building to reduce electro-magnetic interference.Only 10 - 12 marks that were really easy, one was list the 7 types of wiring and installation - a direct copy from the book, but there were no other questions like that.One testing question, "say how to measure the Ze of a 3 phase supply?" - easy, until you realise 3 phase isnt listed in GN3 or OSG, so unless you have tested 3ph, you were unlikely to get full marks for that.

Calculations for CPC and Zs seemed quite straightforward at the time, but afterwards, everyone had a slightly different result, and many hadnt noted the main point that the disconnection time was not too high. I even read it 3 times, it was a Type C 60898 with 4.4 secs disconnect, yet I didnt think of noting it would not meet the regs. I wasnt alone.

Overall, this was far harder than any other electrical exam I have taken. I think I have done enough for a pass, but I cannot be sure. I know I was far more confident when taking 2391-10, so this one, where you can take in your books, must be pretty difficult. As for having the books, yes, the regs gives you a help, however, it does not list why you would use some equipment, it just says you must use that equipment, so it is everyday work that gives you the experience to pass this one.

OSG was used for some cable calcs, but little else, GN3 was only used for the Ze test explanation, but even then did not give the full answer required.Now comes the hard part with the project to design the install for a catalogue shop. This is far more in-depth that I imagined too, so the estimated 40 hours of time required on it is a little too low I think.

As for the Course, this was done at Electrical Training Services, at Witton, Birmingham over 5 (full) days. All i can say is it was an excelent course. It was not until I got the CD with the assessment details, revision etc that I realised how much work has been put into preparing for the course beforehand, so thanks to Steve and John at ETS.

Alan.

 

[NMc]

Sound like you enjoyed it. I am interestested in this exam but I have not seen more info from C&G. It wound appear you have got some good info

Hope you get the result you are after

 

[Jgiles1991]

Hello was there any books apart from GN3 GN1 and 17th edition that will help with this exam. Also would u adivse Birmingham to go for as a training centre?

thanks

 

[sparky351355]

Done this exam in June and it was a total balls up by c&g question one was a cable calc, question 2 referred to q1 but was impossible to answer. Very difficult exam and the project was a beast

 

[sparky351355]

There is a book with all the formulas u need

 

[Jgiles1991]

Ok what is the book?
thanks

 

[sparky351355]

Just found I passed the exam , just got the beast of a project to do now , I will find the name and author of the book for you but I think you may find it on the net as its designed with this course in mind.

 

[Jgiles1991]

ok well i have bought a brian scadden book on the course which i am reading. Can you please tell me what the project entails of?
Thanks

 

[ackbarthestar]

Try this book

Electrical Installation Design Guide: Calculations for Electricians and Designers (2nd Edition) - IET Electrical

 

[R1CH-G]

Got my exam tonight - in about 2 hours from now!

 

[spark 68]

I hope it goes well for you, fingers crossed.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I know it's 5 minutes late but good luck!!

 

[R1CH-G]

Cheers lads - think I've duffed it though :38:

There's 3 hours of my life I won't get back.

Knew some of the answers, but simply didn't have the time to answer 'em as well as I'd have liked. Some of the questions were so cryptic, I actually have no idea what they were looking for as an answer, and a few I simply guessed at as I didn't have time.