3.6kw oven on a plug?

[Dave 85]

Hi Lads
The kitchen firm I work for phoned earlier they swapped an oven over expecting to find a dedicated supply but only found a socket. They plugged it in for now but wanna know if that's ok to leave. Putting in a new feed will be a nightmare and I don't wanna get involved. My thinking is that the OSG said its ok to put a 15kw oven on a 32a MCB so surely 3.6kw (max load) on 13a fuse is acceptable if not ideal

 

[Engineer54]

It works like this:

The oven has special linings, all the gunge comes off with high temperatures.
Very simply, when you select the pyrolytic function your oven temperature will be raised to around 500°C for up to two hours, burning off all food and grease residue and carbonising everything to leave the cavity and oven furniture spotlessly clean. (text stolen from Rangemaster web site)


So, you turn on the oven.
It runs up to high temperature and after a short while the 13A fuse in the plug blows. After two cleaning cycles the plug, or the socket will fail and the kitchen then has no oven until a proper electrician runs a dedicated 16A radial from the fuseboard to the oven.

Never seen a self cleaning oven that actually works to this day!!!!.....

To get an accurate assessment of the maximum total KW it can draw, you need to get hold of the operating instructions and find out what elements can/do run together and which don't via the oven programmer. I've never come across an electric oven that can deliver the KW rating stated on the box, as it's always the connected KW rating thats stated!!! So you might be pleasantly surprised... lol!!!

 

[SirKit Breaker]

As long as the circuit is adequate, then stick a blue commando plug and socket on. Quite common on commercial appliances.

Cheers..........Howard

 

[snowhead]

Did the kitchen company establish it's definitely on ring?
Or is it a 13amp socket on a dedicated circuit wired in 2.5 or bigger?

 

[Dave 85]

Did the kitchen company establish it's definitely on ring?
Or is it a 13amp socket on a dedicated circuit wired in 2.5 or bigger?

Almost certainly on the ring (only ring in the house). Im goin round tommowrow to see what I can do. I was kinda thinking along the lines of what E54 said...ie that its unlikely to pull the full 15 amps at any one time but having discovered that it goes to a very high temp during the cleaning function I reckon its prolly a good idea to put in a new circuit.

 

[Adam]

As long as the circuit is adequate, then stick a blue commando plug and socket on. Quite common on commercial appliances.

Cheers..........Howard

That is only going to work on a dedicated 16A radial.
They can not be connected to a ring final circuit.

 

[sparky-s-w]

and whos gonna want a big dirty industrial socket in their kitchen

 

[Taylortwocities]

and whos gonna want a big dirty industrial socket in their kitchen

Not necessary
16amp MCB
20amp DP switch
Cooker connection plate
Cable to oven
All wired in 2.5mm²

Simples

 

[sparky-s-w]

thats the way to do it:hurray:

 

[Guest55]

Almost certainly on the ring (only ring in the house). Im goin round tommowrow to see what I can do. I was kinda thinking along the lines of what E54 said...ie that its unlikely to pull the full 15 amps at any one time but having discovered that it goes to a very high temp during the cleaning function I reckon its prolly a good idea to put in a new circuit.

Only 1 ring in the house ?
Then theres no point in allocating nearly 50 % of the rings capacity for a single appliance. ;-)

 

[Litttle Shonet]

My thinking is that the OSG said its ok to put a 15kw oven on a 32a MCB

Haven't looked in OSG yet, but 15kw =65A!!!

Could be wrong, still a bit cream crackered :crazy:

 

[Tonkatoy27]

Check what the manufacturers mean by max load of 3.6KW. It's just possible that it's a single oven with a grill and oven element. The 3.6KW might be the sum of both elements but the oven functions may not let you use them together.

 

[Richard]

I would much prefer to wire in a dedicated circuit, but if thats not really acheivable the only thing I would say is wire it into a SFS rather than on a plug top. Although they're rated to 13A, i'v seen many a 3kw electric fire with melted plugs. A proper screwed connection would be much better IMO.