6mm or 10mm for cooker?

[HappyHippyDad]

I don't think I've ever come across a cooker that needs 10mm but I may err on the side of caution with this one.
Rangemaster Leckford deluxe 110cm induction range cooker.
14.8kW, states required a 45A supply.
No info on cable size.
With diversity a 6mm will be ok. Plus ref method C gives a ccc of 47A for 6mm.
But... it's close. Would you use 10mm?

 

[MJPD29]

Terminology is very important harry, it's 10mm, not 10m. Once you have installed the new circuit how do you intend on testing and certifying it?

 

[brianmoooore]

This cooker has a maximum load of 7.4kW. After diversity, this equates to less than 18A. It could be argued that 2.5mm2 is adequate, although I hope that most would fit 4.0mm2.
If this was the all electric version of this model, then 10mm2 would probably be about right.
I have a similar range to the one in question in my living room, and that is supplied by 4.0mm2 T&E.

 

[Harry Khan]

If that model is correct then according to the pdf spec on their website it states a maximum load of 7.4kW



Where did you get this info from?
The only reference I can see to cable size is on P29 where it shows 10mm max which is the maximum cable size for that connector

Maybe you can supply a photo of the voltage label on the back of the cooker to confirm exactly what is required?

Hello the cooker book say 10m cable, thats ok, but i have got al old 6m coming from the trip box to the kitchen socket, the one with the 2 red buttons for the normal size cooker with plug on. But this cookers is different its got no cables at the bck of it. What i need to know if i have to like to like cables for the cooker, by replacing the 6m for the 10m from the fuse box to the kitchen socket and then use the 10m from the cooker to that socket which will require a outlet box to. I hope u can understand this pls.

 

[brianmoooore]

This cooker has a maximum load of 7.4kW. After diversity, this equates to less than 18A. It could be argued that 2.5mm2 is adequate, although I hope that most would fit 4.0mm2.
If this was the all electric version of this model, then 10mm2 would probably be about right.

Your cooker does not require a 10.0mm2 supply cable
If there is a 13A socket on the cooker panel, then it excludes 2.5mm2, but 4.0mm2 is fine. Even your existing 6mm2 is overkill, assuming it isn't unusually long or passes through insulation.

 

[DPG]

This is going to go on for a while I think.

 

[Eddy Currents]

Hello the cooker book say 10m cable, thats ok, but i have got al old 6m coming from the trip box to the kitchen socket, the one with the 2 red buttons for the normal size cooker with plug on. But this cookers is different its got no cables at the bck of it. What i need to know if i have to like to like cables for the cooker, by replacing the 6m for the 10m from the fuse box to the kitchen socket and then use the 10m from the cooker to that socket which will require a outlet box to. I hope u can understand this pls.

You have already said all of that
Maybe you can read my previous reply and answer the questions I asked?

Where did you get the info that says it requires a 10mm cable?
Post a photo of the data plate on the back of the cooker or post here what info it says on it?

Nobody can give you an answer without the relevant information. If you can't or won't answer then I suggest you get an electrician to do it for you (which you should do anyway as stated in the manual)

 

[Midwest]

You have already said all of that
Maybe you can read my previous reply and answer the questions I asked?

Where did you get the info that says it requires a 10mm cable?
Post a photo of the data plate on the back of the cooker or post here what info it says on it?

Nobody can give you an answer without the relevant information. If you can't or won't answer then I suggest you get an electrician to do it for you (which you should do anyway as stated in the manual)

To be fair to OP, I seem to recall that’s what my manual said. And if I recall, had the same response from Rangemaster when I’d previously asked when installing for another customer.

I think it’s RM standard response, when it actually probably only relates to their all electric ovens, as someone else (was it you) has previously said.

 

[Eddy Currents]

To be fair to OP, I seem to recall that’s what my manual said. And if I recall, had the same response from Rangemaster when I’d previously asked when installing for another customer.

I think it’s RM standard response, when it actually probably only relates to their all electric ovens, as someone else (was it you) has previously said.

I agree and looking at the manual it is a bit vague but as I said in my previous post, the OP probably read the 10mm max so I asked to confirm where the info came from

As well as my questions and others have asked questions which are still unanswered, the OP keeps asking the same questions over and over and ignoring people who are trying to help
This does not inspire confidence, and if the OP cannot answer these simple questions then how can he install this safely which IMO he should not be doing if he can't give the correct info in the first place, and I'm not asking technical questions, I'm merely asking where he got the info and to post the info on the plate

I will post the relevant section of the manual for him to read...

Here are some relevant points, some of which have already been asked...

"Check the appliance is electrically safe when you have finished"
How is this going to be achieved?

"The cooker must be installed by a qualified electrician..."

"The cooker must be connected to the correct electrical supply as stated on the voltage label on the cooker"

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I've got to say it, I'm trying not to...... but I've got to..... I'm going to, soon.....

Still trying not to.... but here it comes..... Nope, not going to, staying calm, carry on with beer.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

This is going to go on for a while I think.

I do wish there was an emoji rated one higher than a mere grin.

 

[Midwest]

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