A new energy source-maybe--maybe-not

[justcurioustwo]

I am bringing this drawing back into the discussion just to ask one last question.
In the drawing there are twelve (12) buckets on the right side. Just for discussion each bucket has a lifting force of 100-foot pounds. 12 buckets times 100 = 1200-foot pounds of lifting force.
1200-foot pounds of lifting force can produce more energy at any one moment in time than 100-foot pounds;
Once all the buckets are full and this machine is running, the process continues to produce 1200-foot pounds of force if you continue to fill one (1) bucket at the bottom in sequence with the rest.
YES or NO?

 

[davesparks]

You are 180 degrees wong. As the balloons of air rise they will expand; increasing the lifting force.

Please stay on this topic; I need you -
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Bubbles in water+/-salt water
The air bubble will expand as the bubble rises
This is where the term "poof"{ came from -

The bubble expands, but doesn't contain any more air, it is just less compressed.

 

[ElectroChem]

I humoured your delusions once only.
Come up with some serious explanation (with actual mathematics) as to how your proposal would work or be blocked and ignored.

 

[oracle]

Put up a sail

 

[justcurioustwo]

Here is another diagram that might help this discussion

 

[telectrix]

Here is another diagram that might help this discussion

 

[justcurioustwo]

SeaPower description
This is a diagram that details a new energy generating power from the expanding rise of air underwater
In the diagram, there are balloons that air was injected in the lower balloon. As the balloon rises it expands and this expansion is caused by the reducing pressure applied upon it.
Picture this as if each balloon was a hot air balloon with an opening at the bottom. The first balloon at the bottom is injected with air; as the balloon rises it expands creating more lifting power.
This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat.
I realize that there must be a reason this idea won’t fly but as of yet I have not found it.
If you really believe this contraption won’t work, please explain; otherwise you don’t have a clue.
The lifting force is equal to the volume of water displaced. This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. One cubic foot of water weighs 64 lbs. A balloon that displaces 10 cubic feet of are has a lifting force of 640 lbs.

 

[telectrix]

you are injecting a balloon with air. where does the power to do this come from?

 

[Lucien Nunes]

I'm not even going to try to unscramble the numbers on the drawing. Force is not measured in foot-pounds. Sea-water does not weigh 64 lbs per square foot. There seem to be some fundamental misconceptions.

In an ideal machine, the energy used to compress air at sea-level to fill one balloon at the bottom of the belt will be equal to the energy transferred to the belt as the balloon ascends back to sea-level, numerically the integral of the buoyancy force over the distance it moves. The balloon skin simply behaves like a piston of variable area, against which the air expands, a reverse analogue of what went on in the compressor cylinder. It's an air-motor using a liquid medium as a cylinder, nothing more, nothing less.

Next please.

 

[Zerax]

Like what he said...

 

[static zap]

It looks like the type of idea we all could invent in the bath ,
on a diet of baked beans.
(thanks for sharing - I'm always googling my "ideas" to find they are not original.
and now getting paranoid enough to think , Google may steal any original thought , - Similar to the terms of an "Employment contract" )

 

[Megawatt]

It looks like the type of idea we all could invent in the bath ,
on a diet of baked beans.
(thanks for sharing - I'm always googling my "ideas" to find they are not original.
and now getting paranoid enough to think , Google may steal any original thought , - Similar to the terms of an "Employment contract" )

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SeaPower description
This is a diagram that details a new energy generating power from the expanding rise of air underwater
In the diagram, there are balloons that air was injected in the lower balloon. As the balloon rises it expands and this expansion is caused by the reducing pressure applied upon it.
Picture this as if each balloon was a hot air balloon with an opening at the bottom. The first balloon at the bottom is injected with air; as the balloon rises it expands creating more lifting power.
This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat.
I realize that there must be a reason this idea won’t fly but as of yet I have not found it.
If you really believe this contraption won’t work, please explain; otherwise you don’t have a clue.
The lifting force is equal to the volume of water displaced. This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. One cubic foot of water weighs 64 lbs. A balloon that displaces 10 cubic feet of are has a lifting force of 640 lbs.View attachment 52190

mr. Curious you will have to find someone smarter than me. I got no idea what you are talking about and I’ve worked in a hydroelectric power plant and it just has a dam and the water dropping down turning turbines

 

[static zap]

.... got no idea what you are talking about ...........

A little bit of Physics .. mixed with common sense
is the best basis for "Looks plausible - Never done before schemes " .. as they are breaking the laws of physics in a subtle way.
volume of water displaced by an expanding air bubble
..Looks good
Put it in a piston chamber , it will expand (only if it started a higher pressure ) final step at surface
.. will have minimum force -not so impressive
(In the UK some Employment contracts -claim your inventions)

 

[justcurioustwo]

Here is another look at the system. The bubbles are more like hot air balloons but instead of heat, air is added. As the air bubble rises, it expands creating more lifting force. When all six (6) bubbles have air in them they combine this lifting force.

 

[DPG]

But how are you filling the balloons with air?

 

[Baddegg]

@justcurioustwo why don’t you build it.....film it......and prove all us doubters wrong?