A reminder to everyone - FatallyFlawed - Child Plug Socket Covers Campaign

[topcat]

Dont have any kids my self but see them all the time in childrens centres i vist will do my best to point them to the web site.

 

[gaz76]

Very strange to come across this thread, my wife has twins on the way and socket covers WERE on my list of must haves, not anymore, I have installed these things loads of times, on banks and shops etc, and like someone else mentioned i've seen them in plenty of nusery's and creches.
one thing I will say though, to the common man(myself included until 20 mins ago) a socket is a socket, and telling them about internal shutters on socket outlets will be wasting oxygen. would it not be better for the fatally flawed people to come up with another design for socket safety?
a simple letterbox system fixed with the socket screws springs to mind(50/50 dragons den??) as infairness if you stuck a nail in the earth terminal and opened the shutters, whats to stop you using your other hand and sticking another nail in the live terminal.

 

[kingeri]

Very strange to come across this thread, my wife has twins on the way and socket covers WERE on my list of must haves, not anymore, I have installed these things loads of times, on banks and shops etc, and like someone else mentioned i've seen them in plenty of nusery's and creches.
one thing I will say though, to the common man(myself included until 20 mins ago) a socket is a socket, and telling them about internal shutters on socket outlets will be wasting oxygen. would it not be better for the fatally flawed people to come up with another design for socket safety?
a simple letterbox system fixed with the socket screws springs to mind(50/50 dragons den??) as infairness if you stuck a nail in the earth terminal and opened the shutters, whats to stop you using your other hand and sticking another nail in the live terminal.

That would take a very deliberate and coordinated effort

 

[gaz76]

That would take a very deliberate and coordinated effort

so would putting the socket cover in upsidedown, snapping it and then putting a pin in the live terminal.

 

[vernam616]

I have children myself so understand dangers and prevention

However this is idiocy, i certainly didnt play with sockets when i was a child and back then there wasnt internal shutters, and my kids dont either, decent parenting is the key

Kids could put a whole host of things in the earth terminal and then something into the live

 

[Knobhead]

Have you checked out http://www.fatallyflawed.org.uk/

Do you understand BS 1363?

 

[Knobhead]

However this is idiocy, i certainly didnt play with sockets when i was a child and back then there wasnt internal shutters,

The shutters have been incorporated since 1927!

 

[gaz76]

The shutters have been incorporated since 1927!

how do you know how old he is?

 

[vernam616]

What you will learn about this place is a lot of people have nothing much better to do with their time, one word springs to mind and thats jobsworth

Teach the children NOT to play with sockets and in turn you dont have a problem, ive got 2 kids aged 6 & 4 and neither one have ever bothered as i warn them how dangerous it is

 

[Bluesknight]

very informative, it just shows with all the safety check we do, we still take things for granted.

Good work Tony

 

[Jay Sparks]

Are lass is a qualified nursery nurse and even she didnt know they were crap, they still use them in the nusery were she works ( untill Monday) and ofsted have never said owt on there inspections. Eyes wide open on this one mate, cheers. Child safety is of the upmost importance!!!


Cheers

jay

 

[Strima]

I agree that education is the best thing with kids however looking at some of the parents walking round in the places I've lived they also need to be supervised. Yesterday was a Polish bird in Tescos letting her toddler play with a carrier bag.

 

[Knobhead]

I thought carrier bags were child proof, I can't get them open!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

we come across these quite a bit on PIRs n stuff....now obviously i cant just throw these away wherever i come across them as they arn`t my property to do so....but i will inform the person/s ordering the test that these are dangerous....i mean why the hell anyone want to introduce potentials into the home...thats what these things are doing by holding shutters open...etc...

 

[techipaul]

Having read the website article, will talk to everyone that I know runs public venues etc to remove them and point them to the website for further info.

 

[CLB]

You could try lobbying the govt on the e-Petitions website. Basically, you create an e-Petition calling for the ban of these devices and if the petition acquires 100,000 signatures it triggers a debate in the House of Commons.

 

[spikester]

Very informative, have just linked the website to family and friends on facebook to help try and spread the message, just takes an Inquisitive child playing and could end in disaster.

 

[spud4dd]

Eye opener! Good work.

 

[georges]

why are these things even allowed to be sold by anyone

 

[simonk]

I noticed some of these in my parents' kitchen a few weeks ago (and they don't even have young children running around!). I told them about the things being a poor design etc and wondered why they were there at all more than anything else. Turns out they actually bought them to stop a strong cold draught blowing through the socket pin holes! Almost a legitimate use?!?

 

[Litttle Shonet]

What a brilliant website. I could never see the point in these things myself. Don't shout at me but I have in the past tried to connect plugs with a broken earth pin(plastic pin) from a charger and it's a pain in the a**e, so how a child could do it beats me.

But on a serious note, without legislation, if schools etc remove these covers and a child does somehow manage to get something inside them, then, with todays 'blame culture' somebody is going to go to court. So hopefully the Government will take this on board and do something about them.

Good luck

 

[FatallyFlawed]

But on a serious note, without legislation, if schools etc remove these covers and a child does somehow manage to get something inside them, then, with todays 'blame culture' somebody is going to go to court. So hopefully the Government will take this on board and do something about them.

You should not fear repercussions from the non-use of socket covers! There is no UK Government advice that says they should be used, there are no standards which are applicable to socket covers (and no socket covers meet the dimensions of BS 1363). The government has decided not to bring them within the plugs and sockets regulations (after all, they are completely unnecessary), so the only regulations which apply are the Toy Safety regulations requiring that they not poison or choke a child who puts a cover in their mouth. No court is going to find negligence in the non-use of an unregulated, untested device which is demonstrably unfit for use and which has not been recommended for use by any responsible body!

 

[Litttle Shonet]

Thanks FF. It's now crusade time

 

[SibertSolar]

Good stuff, I'll spread the word...

 

[Robinwood]

Re: A reminder to everyone

We have the owner of that website as a member on here somewhere you know. Didn't know he was a TV presenter!

dear, Which website you are talking about. please mention the site.