Advice for a bill/dispute

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Bloody hell a bathroom job went from July till September?

We do them in a week usually.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

This is picture of the mirror he mounted, pictures of the lights he supplied and fitted.

Then a picture of the loft and the light on the angle is the one he names in the bill as if it was a lot of work.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

Bloody hell a bathroom job went from July till September?

We do them in a week usually.

It was only finished today. I'm moving house before I ever consider more work on the house.

We had to do the painting ourselves as the painters we phoned had 8-12 weeks work.

The plumber, joiner and electrician done jobs in stops and starts. Between trade shows, holidays, other jobs it just dragged on.

We then had to wait weeks for the flooring company to get us a fitting slot. The plumber came back today and fitted and sealed the bath panel.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

Sorry I'm still here.

Reading his bill he points out all the work carried out on the 17/8 and how it would be made live on next visit.

6/9 pull down cables to connect and make live?

With the the exception of the drawer everything was live.

 

[Pete999]

Can't see any costing for required testing, certification and notifying Building control, or is it different where you live?, Has he issued any certification? If he is disputing your claim that the lad was/is an Apprentice, and the Father is saying he is an Electrician, ask him if you coild see copies of the Lads qualifications, is the Father / Son Electrician a member of any of the Competent Persons Schemes?

 

[Octopus]

Offer him 9 hours time (including travelling) - plus the parts ......... still a bit high but 3 seperate visits do add time to a job ...........

Neither of you are going to win out of this situation.

And if this bill is agreed at this level, just warn your friends about getting work done without an estimate first!

Compromise on both sides is necessary to get this sorted - if either of you go "legal" the costs will escalate out of hand VERY quickly.


(like the farce in the Brexit conversations)

 

[In_need_of_advice]

Here is a picture of the r.c.d.

There has been zero papers of certification handed out. Were in Scotland and I don't know the rules.

Here's the paragraph about the dad denying he was an apprentice. I notice that he says he was fully tried by him and doesn't include any lines like time served of has qualifications.

He was a nice young guy which his dad appears to want to remind me. He's also likes to remind me how established he is and how's he's never encountered bad debt before. His letter does have a lot of irrelevant facts that sidestep the issues.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

Can't see any costing for required testing, certification and notifying Building control, or is it different where you live?, Has he issued any certification? If he is disputing your claim that the lad was/is an Apprentice, and the Father is saying he is an Electrician, ask him if you coild see copies of the Lads qualifications, is the Father / Son Electrician a member of any of the Competent Persons Schemes?

Should I be issued a certificate for this work? I'm in Scotland if that makes a difference.

The company are members of SELECT. I have emailed them, but no response as yet.

I posted picture above about the dad's explanation of the son. He does skip past the words time served and doesn't highlight any qualifications.

 

[telectrix]

you should definitely get a certificate. as for the guy's son, it may be that he's not got qualifications, but he may be competent through practical experience and taught by his dad. still, i think the price is way high for the work you describe.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

you should definitely get a certificate. as for the guy's son, it may be that he's not got qualifications, but he may be competent through practical experience and taught by his dad. still, i think the price is way high for the work you describe.

Can he issue a certificate of conformance without qualification?

 

[telectrix]

could be the father issuing the cert. either way, the key word is competence. this can be demonstrated by qualifications and/or experience. in a court of law, relevant qualifications go a long way to proving competence, but without practical experience, who can tell if a guy is competent or not.

 

[In_need_of_advice]

could be the father issuing the cert. either way, the key word is competence. this can be demonstrated by qualifications and/or experience. in a court of law, relevant qualifications go a long way to proving competence, but without practical experience, who can tell if a guy is competent or not.

The father was only in my house for less than 2 hours on the first day. He hasn't been back to check the work carried out since.

Can the son be deemed competent when he didn't understand how to wire the LED lights on the drawer and loses hours to hang a mirror requiring 3 screws?

Does claiming 18 hours to do the work highlighted also bring into question being competent?

I can't understand how these drawers have caused such an issue. Here is a link to the lights.

Scheme 800 lighting kit | Roper Rhodes - http://www.roperrhodes.co.uk/product/scheme-800mm-lighting-kit/#.WeclnffTXqB

What confusion can there be to the placement of the LED strips, the position of the touch sensor, or how to wire it?

 

[Pete999]

The father was only in my house for less than 2 hours on the first day. He hasn't been back to check the work carried out since.

Can the son be deemed competent when he didn't understand how to wire the LED lights on the drawer and loses hours to hang a mirror requiring 3 screws?

Does claiming 18 hours to do the work highlighted also bring into question being competent?

I can't understand how these drawers have caused such an issue. Here is a link to the lights.

Scheme 800 lighting kit | Roper Rhodes - http://www.roperrhodes.co.uk/product/scheme-800mm-lighting-kit/#.WeclnffTXqB

What confusion can there be to the placement of the LED strips, the position of the touch sensor, or how to wire it?

Jobs not finished till the certs been issued. Tell the Father you require a certificate before ANY payment will be considered. If you doubt the Sons competence, was he supervised during the installation, sounds to me that the Father has taken this job on hoping to make a killing using his Son as a form of cheap labour, as you mentioned earlier he openly admitted he was struggling with the work. To issue a certificate will require him to carry out certain tests, both dean and when the work is made live.

 

[J.C.E]

Here is his breakdown. The other pages have addresses and personal details. I'll need to edit that stuff out.

His son was the only one in the loft between our previous visits. We don't smoke and the smell was obvious to us.

I did take it up with him that a few other electricians I spoke to said about £350 would be cost of the job.

Where else would you put a sensor on a drawer you have to touch to turn on? I didn't read the instructions, but I can't begin to understand the confusion.

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To be honest i rather agree with him- especially his last paragraph
why spend all your time (and the electrician waiting to be paid) now that he has done the job and you don't like the price- why not spend that time before you get him commited!

 

[Pete999]

To be honest i rather agree with him- especially his last paragraph
why spend all your time (and the electrician waiting to be paid) now that he has done the job and you don't like the price- why not spend that time before you get him commited!

What exactly do you mean J.C.E.