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Hi,

I have been asked to move some plug sockets from the skirting board (they are too low and this causes problems plugging in equipment) to higher up the wall in a domestic property. I will be chasing in and fitting new flush mounted sockets.

I am after advice on the best way to proceed. There seems to be several options. If the cable under the floor is long enough to reach the new socket position, then there will be no need to extend any cables and no major problems, but if it is not long enough, what is the best method for extending it? NOTE: The cable is in good condition so a full rewire is not necessary due to deterioration as it appears to have been changed in the late 70’s or early 80’s.

To get to the new socket if the cables are too short, I had planned either to use Hagar Maintenance free junction boxes, with the idea of spurring off the ring under the floorboards and having a single new cable to the new sockets, or I could extend both legs of the ring by crimping each conductor then putting the joint in a “chock box” for strain relief and to enclose the uncovered insulation. What is the best practice for extending cables in this circumstance?

Also, I think the best option for the chasing in and putting in the back coxes may be to take my equipment into a room (with three or four sockets) and do them together, then move all the equipment onto another room or location and do another group of sockets in the area. Is this a good plan, or is there a better way to do this?
 
personally, i would go for the crimping option.

If you use the JB and use a single spur wire, just be sure that the current socket wires are legs of the ring and not a spur off a spur.

Best Regards,
 
find out which one (outlet) is the first one in that room...and which the last one is......check that the incoming cable to these will pull up enough to get these points to a satisfactory height.....any cables inbetween these points can either be pulled up to height....or if not long enough..just tie some new on...and use the existing cable to pull em in...(dont forget you are not going to have to comply with the 450-1200 rule here)....
 
personally, i would go for the crimping option.

If you use the JB and use a single spur wire, just be sure that the current socket wires are legs of the ring and not a spur off a spur.

Best Regards,
i hope your not suggesting what i think you are here...
putting joint boxes under the floor with stabs of ov em to serve these points?
 
find out which one (outlet) is the first one in that room...and which the last one is......check that the incoming cable to these will pull up enough to get these points to a satisfactory height.....any cables inbetween these points can either be pulled up to height....or if not long enough..just tie some new on...and use the existing cable to pull em in...(dont forget you are not going to have to comply with the 450-1200 rule here)....
Yes, I had considered this but did not include it in my original post. It does seem to be a good option with minimal cable extensions, and being an old installation, I was going to put the new sockets two inches above the skirting board.
 
Yes, I had considered this but did not include it in my original post. It does seem to be a good option with minimal cable extensions, and being an old installation, I was going to put the new sockets two inches above the skirting board.
its a common one though this....especially on renteds....where the points are surface mounted...just fixed to the skirting board and i dont like it....
you cant always get plugtops in em rite....and their just dyin to get smacked off the wall by chair/table legs n stuff....
 
I personally would just fit a spur at the exisiting position and then extend the cables up the wall from that.
I considered this. My concern is that once I am finished, the house owners intend to replace the old skirting board, and the new junction box will then be buried behind the skirting board, and that does not seem a great idea.
Is that good practice? Or should I be joining under the floor?
 
maybe people will go mad on here but i was asked to move sockets up from a skirting(thank you Job from Cousin) because they could not get the plugs in a year after they bought the house but I convinced him the best idea was to just to turn all the sockets upside down because of the mess it would make of the walls and the skirting was cut around the socket just wait till he is going to decorate again
 
I considered this. My concern is that once I am finished, the house owners intend to replace the old skirting board, and the new junction box will then be buried behind the skirting board, and that does not seem a great idea.
Is that good practice? Or should I be joining under the floor?
you dont want inaccessable joints...its bad practice....unless its a `maintinance free` joint of course....
joints want to be in the back of points really (terminations).....for the amount of cable your gonna use puttin it rite.....
 

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