After bit of advice filling in test certificates please?

[sythai]

Learn something everyday,

Cheers, Sy

 

[netblindpaul]

Disagree.

It can't be EEBAD because EEBAD no longer exists. It has to be ADS.

The only way EEBAD could be entered on a certificate is if it was legitimately designed under the 16th Edition, in which case it would also be constructed and inspected and tested to the 16th Edition. Needless to say very little installation work happening nowadays could have been legitimately designed to the 16th Edition.

As far as I understand all of the Olympic village is 16th, & I have this on quite reliable grounds.

Paul

 

[Guest123]

As far as I understand all of the Olympic village is 16th, & I have this on quite reliable grounds.

Paul

I heard the same....being going on for ages though hasn't it, probably designed in 04-05.

 

[Risteard]

As far as I understand all of the Olympic village is 16th, & I have this on quite reliable grounds.

Paul

As I said that's legitimate if it was DESIGNED under the 16th Edition. You cannot now design to the 16th Edition, but you can install and inspect and test to the 16th Edition if the installation was already designed to the 16th Edition before mid-2008.

 

[jeanlee411]

No, they have ADS which in a previous life was known as EEBAD.

at the Select course other week the 16th to 17th came up and mention was made (by the teckky guy)of Housing estaes DESIGNED a couple of years ago and put on hold could be wired using the 16th not that this is likley to happen

 

[Risteard]

at the Select course other week the 16th to 17th came up and mention was made (by the teckky guy)of Housing estaes DESIGNED a couple of years ago and put on hold could be wired using the 16th not that this is likley to happen

Yes indeed as I have said a couple of times already on this thread. Doesn't have to be housing estates of course - someone else mentioned the Olympic site. The point is that so long as it was designed to the 16th Edition before the 16th Edition ceased to be in operation then it can be installed and inspected and tested to the 16th Edition.

 

[Steve D]

Hi There....

Just getting my couple of jobs together for nic assessment in few weeks time.

The first job is a kitchen refurb. New ring, existing cooker circuit: reposition, existing lights: extend. So will be completing green D10 ‘electrical installation certificate’


Second Job is altering some bathroom lighting, taking out 2 x surface fittings and replacing with GU10 down lights. So M10 ‘Minor Works’ for this.

1st Job - Should really be a EIC covering the new ring, and 2 separate minor works certificates for the work your doing on the cooker circuit and on the lighting circuit.

At least that's how 2391 sees it.

Cheers
Steve

 

[sythai]

I will be altering the characteristics of the lighting and the cooker circuits. So wouldnt that be on the EIC ? correct me if I'm wrong please..?

 

[Steve D]

From GN3

The minor works cert is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit. Examples include the addition of a socket outlet or a lighting point to an existing circuit . . .

 

[just add water sparks]

BS7671 explicitly states that a spur from a ring final circuit can be taken from the distribution board. (Essentially it's no different to spurring from a socket anyway.)

looking back at my old 16th Edition study citb study notes shows a diagram of a non fused spur off the distribution board from the 32amp outgoing fuse with the 2 exsisting ends of the ring.So in effect this would be like wiring socket radials from a board which in the regs used to be only allowed(and still is) with a 16amp or 20amp mcb.So if you can run a non fused spur off a dist board why is there this ambiguity.Also i did not think current carrying capacity of 2.5mm does not go as far as 32amps.Which we spur off at not only from dist board but spuring off a ring itself(at the socket or jb)always thought about it but never questioned it.Im not picking faults at any ones comments as it does state it in my old 16th book just being the devils advocate really.

 

[pevvers]

Yes, but an unfused spur is only allowed to supply one double 13A socket, therefore the maximum the cable can carry is 26A...

 

[pevvers]

There is a regulation that allows the omission of overload protection if the characteristics of the supply or load makes overload situations unlikely.