Aico smoke alarms and Texecom house alarm

[UNG]

There seems to be mixed terminology here. The terms fire alarm and smoke alarm are not interchangeable.
Perhaps the OP can confirm what he requires. He says "my house", so I'd expect he wants smoke alarms (+heat in kitchen) linked to the intruder alarm.

BS 5839 is a fire alarm standard BS 5839 pt 6 deals with domestic fire detection equipment be it a smoke detector, heat detector or manual call point or a mixture of any them that sounds an alarm if a fire is detected therefore it is a fire alarm how interchangeable do you want it to be
It could be argued it is actually a fire detection system not an alarm if you want to split hairs

 

[westward10]

Intruder alarms are manufactured to BS EN50131, fire alarms are to manufactured BS 5839 while there may be some common parts they are two totally different standards
Intruder alarms are not a life safety product whereas fire alarms are and have to operate in the event of a fire and provide certain level of operation under fire conditions
Illegal is a much misused word ascribed to non compliance with the regulations which in general are codes of practice which may be referenced in a number of laws where not meeting the requirements of the regulations could result in prosecution not quite sure where the building regs fall on that one for fire detection in a domestic property
While including a number of sounders in your previous system unless they were a self contained unit with their own battery so they would operate on a loss of power, failure of the wiring or intruder panel would result in no operating sounders so for me it is how you perceive the risk

Fire alarms are not manufactured to BS5839 that is the standard for the installation, commissioning and maintenance of such systems.
BS5446 and EN14604 covers Part 6 detection devices and EN54 covers Part 1 equipment.

 

[JLeague]

There seems to be mixed terminology here. The terms fire alarm and smoke alarm are not interchangeable.
Perhaps the OP can confirm what he requires. He says "my house", so I'd expect he wants smoke alarms (+heat in kitchen) linked to the intruder alarm.

So to clarify. My knowledge of this is going off what I had installed by an accredited alarm installer - not once was it discussed that you should have separate systems.

My brief then was I needed an alarm that dials out in case of activation and he said I should add smoke and fire alarms so in the even of a fire I will be notified. I thought great hardwired smoke and burglar alarm with battery backup.

Only now am I realising on the great advice on this forum that I should have had 2 separate systems - one for burglar and the other smoke / fire.

So when I use the terms smoke / fire I really am as a consumer referring to a system that activates if a fire occurs in my house, so I apologise for using the wrong terms.

 

[davesparks]

I thought great hardwired smoke and burglar alarm with battery backup.

One issue in my mind is that the hard wiring isn't fire resistant and the battery backup and sounder aren't built in to the detector.

If the detector, battery supply and sounders are in different locations then they should, in my opinion, be connected with fire resistant cable, otherwise a relatively small fire in the wrong location could render the whole system useless.

Whilst normal mains powered, self contained, alarms with a battery backup, or even self contained battery powered smoke alarms, might look like they are less advanced or appear to be 'basic' they have the big advantage of being self contained.

Self contained alarms will continue to operate if the supply to them is interrupted and a small fire in one area won't leave the whole house without protection.

 

[UNG]

One issue in my mind is that the hard wiring isn't fire resistant and the battery backup and sounder aren't built in to the detector.

If the detector, battery supply and sounders are in different locations then they should, in my opinion, be connected with fire resistant cable, otherwise a relatively small fire in the wrong location could render the whole system useless.

Whilst normal mains powered, self contained, alarms with a battery backup, or even self contained battery powered smoke alarms, might look like they are less advanced or appear to be 'basic' they have the big advantage of being self contained.

Self contained alarms will continue to operate if the supply to them is interrupted and a small fire in one area won't leave the whole house without protection.

Which is the point I was trying to make in earlier posts