Aico smoke detector wiring

[gazdkw82]

Just about to start pulling in the cables for my smile detectors, however I dint have the detectors yet. Is there enough room in the terminals to terminate a supply feed in and then loop out to the next detector or is a junction box required to house the feed and a supply taken from every J/B?

 

[Midwest]

They are not exposed, there’s a cover over the cables, there’s no cables exposed once the smoke head is removed.
I think you’re thinking of the wrong manufacturer

Blimey, didn’t realise my personal opinion would raise such discord.

I used Aico for quite a while and would also recommend them.

My preference of using dry line boxes behind them, came after I installed a smoke and CO2 detector in a tight for headroom loft space. After I fitted them, I could see wires slightly protruding out the back. Even after reterminating, it still didn’t look good. There I used a conduit boxes. Thereafter I started using dry liner boxes, surly that’s no big deal?

Whilst they can be terminated successfully, if the wires are kept really short, it’s not like terminating a ceiling rose, which has individual terminals. The back box, makes it an easier installation, and made me more confident the wires are properly terminated, especially with fat fingers.

Something perhaps not so controversial, as I said before, the use of Aico’s Locate and Remote Control Test Switch Surface, in an installation, is a very good idea IMO.

 

[nicebutdim]

Something perhaps not so controversial, as I said before, the use of Aico’s Locate and Remote Control Test Switch Surface, in an installation, is a very good idea IMO.

I fiited an Aico test switch for my parents, to make testing easier with high ceilings. It's not something that would suit the decor of most homes, but practicality and function far outweighed form on this occasion. They've not had reason to use the locate or hush function as yet, but the test button makes it pretty easy for them to test each detector with a minimum of fuss.

One thing that didn't cross my mind was a means of isolation, which has been mentioned earlier in this thread. While I like the idea, I'm not sure how I feel about someone being able to isolate smoke detectors in the event of a fault - I'd hung the system off upstairs lighting to prevent my father doing exactly this, should a fault occur.

 

[Midwest]

I’ve put them in cupboards etc, out of the way and even next to the CU.

 

[gazdkw82]

At the moment the detectors will just be fed from a dedicated circuit. To get to my consumer unit you need to move a shoe cabinet which isnt the easiest.

The only way I can see aboit preventing turning the smokes off in the event of a fault is to utilise the lighting circuit like mentioned above.

 

[nicebutdim]

I thought about locations that were out of sight, but in the end it went beside the landing light switch. As they're now in their 80s it seemed prudent to allow easy access close to their bedroom.

Everything revolved around practicality in the renovations made to their home - also added two way switching in the landing for the hall light, so they wouldn't have to make extra journeys down the stairs. I figure that some day I might get old and it would be nice if the kids factored this into their thinking

 

[Mike Johnson]

I don't understand the need for the isolator to the Aico alarms, the Lithium Battery will keep the alarm operational for four months after loosing power? unless the isolator is dual pole and its for isolation when testing?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Just about to start pulling in the cables for my smile detectors, however I dint have the detectors yet. Is there enough room in the terminals to terminate a supply feed in and then loop out to the next detector or is a junction box required to house the feed and a supply taken from every J/B?

We should be encouraging smiles not trying to detect and eliminate them!

 

[richy3333]

Dont you evacuate the property if the fire detection lion is in fault mode, i.e 'going off'? Just use an Aico locate, test and hush unit?

 

[Andy78]

Dont you evacuate the property if the fire detection lion is in fault mode, i.e 'going off'? Just use an Aico locate, test and hush unit?

I'd evacuate pretty quickly if a lion was "going off" in fault mode in the property. Firstly my bowels, then the building.

 

[Midwest]

I don't understand the need for the isolator to the Aico alarms, the Lithium Battery will keep the alarm operational for four months after loosing power? unless the isolator is dual pole and its for isolation when testing?

As said, the Aico remote is to identify the alarm that activated (the other alarms are silenced); if it’s a false alarm, it can also be temporarily silenced. If that’s what you were asking?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Bit of cross purpose I think, others where talking about isolation of the alarm, what I was addressing is that alarms should not be able to be isolated, the remote is an entirely different thing, it has been mentioned that one guy did not put the supply into the lighting circuit to prevent his father from turning if off, think it was "nicebutdim".

 

[davesparks]

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I don't understand the need for the isolator to the Aico alarms, the Lithium Battery will keep the alarm operational for four months after loosing power? unless the isolator is dual pole and its for isolation when testing?

The point of an isolator is to allow the isolation of the equipment for maintainence and repair.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It would need to be dual pole as I said in post 36.

 

[nicebutdim]

Bit of cross purpose I think, others where talking about isolation of the alarm, what I was addressing is that alarms should not be able to be isolated, the remote is an entirely different thing, it has been mentioned that one guy did not put the supply into the lighting circuit to prevent his father from turning if off, think it was "nicebutdim".

I did the opposite as it was easy to envision my father turning off the circuit if there was a fault and never bothering to do anything further about it.

The idea of an isolation switch was something I'd been curious about after it had been mentioned earlier in the thread. I see subsequent posts clarified this being for maintenence etc, but with a total of 6 heads I just removed them and wago'd past the test switch for IR testing.

 

[davesparks]

It would need to be dual pole as I said in post 36.

Why would it?