Am i entitled to call myself a sparky?

[hillen1986]

Ok , so i completed 2365 level 3, and also 17th edition. At my place of work , I'm the go to guy, as well as another very experienced electrician, to do the electrical work. They don't seem to have a problem with me not having the nvq completed ( maybe naive) . I've had some issues with a new contract, and am seeking more pay. but am basing it on my quals that i already have, do i have a ground to fight for better pay?

4 years experience and 2365 level 3, i also have engineering maintenance level 2 nvq, IOSH, HACCP , 17th edition. Surely with these quals i can insist on this?

This is an engineering environment predominantly, but of course electrical work needs doing too.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

A tricky one this.
If a company pays for you to become qualified, should they then raise your pay because you are now qualified?

 

[Nigel]

I have never done am AM2 so am I not an electrician.

Me neither. I think it is utterly pointless.

 

[Nigel]

Me neither. I think it is utterly pointless.

A tricky one this.
If a company pays for you to become qualified, should they then raise your pay because you are now qualified?

Yes.

 

[westward10]

I have not done the AM2 nor have a JIB card....

I do have a JIB card though with Technician on it, don't know how I swung that.

 

[Nigel]

I do have a JIB card though with Technician on it, don't know how I swung that.

I am not sure if we are a similar age (36) but there was a time (2396) when the AM2 was not a part of the NVQ.

 

[gazdkw82]

Quite a few times served electricians where I work have never done AM2. Does that mean they are not electricians?

One electrician at my works failed the AM2 when it first came out. He's still considered and payed as an electrician

 

[telectrix]

as per spoon.if your rate is below what you expect then ask why.

 

[Nigel]

Quite a few times served electricians where I work have never done AM2. Does that mean they are not electricians?

One electrician at my works failed the AM2 when it first came out. He's still considered and payed as an electrician

It depends. If they got their NVQ without it as I did then yes. If they needed the AM2 to
Complete their NVQ and so never got the NVQ then no.

 

[hillen1986]

Why didn't you do the NVQ? If you're working as an Electrician and you think you're an electrician then it'll be easy enough.
I'm fully qualified with 7 years experience and I don't truly feel like I'm done learning yet.

My job is predominantly a maintenance Engineer, but i do some electrical work too. I'm certainly not done learning, and at this place i never will be, there just isn't enough variation of work. But if they have me working for say £11 an hour, i don't feel it would be wrong to have a bit more , considering when they get contractors in doing the same work , £25 an hour is cheap.

 

[westward10]

I am not sure if we are a similar age (36) but there was a time (2396) when the AM2 was not a part of the NVQ.

Wish I was knocking in my early 50s.

 

[hillen1986]

What issues do you have with the new contract?
If they are going you the work of an 'electrician' but not the pay then ask them why.

The reason is because I'm still considered by them, to be training. But at the same time, get me doing work that only a qualified sparky can do. It's an odd situation granted, just wanted some input from guys who are fully qualified and long term served.

 

[JAWS]

My job is predominantly a maintenance Engineer, but i do some electrical work too. I'm certainly not done learning, and at this place i never will be, there just isn't enough variation of work. But if they have me working for say £11 an hour, i don't feel it would be wrong to have a bit more , considering when they get contractors in doing the same work , £25 an hour is cheap.

Aldi pay £10 an hour so surely you are worth more then a pound more then their shelf stacker.

 

[Nigel]

Aldi pay £10 an hour so surely you are worth more then a pound more then their shelf stacker.

Supply and demand. Too many people and not enough work.

Skills has nothing to do with it unfortunatly.

 

[hillen1986]

Aldi pay £10 an hour so surely you are worth more then a pound more then their shelf stacker.

Good point!

 

[MJPD29]

I have never owned or even set eyes on a jib card so I wouldn't worry about that