Amendment 2 is out today

[loz2754]

Hi all. This is what I've read about it today.
Hope the like works.

I find it strange there making AFDD mandatory?

https://electrical.------.org/wirin...-2-of-the-18th-edition-bs-76712018plusa22022/

Thanks but this forum filters out links to the IET.
Repost the link after putting it through a URL shortening service.

 

[123]

Why is the i e t a banned word here? Seems very petty

 

[timhoward]

The impact of Amendment 2 of the 18th edition (BS 7671:2018+A2:2022)

In this article, we look at the impact that some of the proposed changes in the draft for public comment (DPC) will have on electrical installations. We focus on Chapter 42, Chapter 44 and the new Chapter 82.

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[loz2754]

The impact of Amendment 2 of the 18th edition (BS 7671:2018+A2:2022)

In this article, we look at the impact that some of the proposed changes in the draft for public comment (DPC) will have on electrical installations. We focus on Chapter 42, Chapter 44 and the new Chapter 82.

tinyurl.com

Well done sir!

So this article states that these are only draft proposals....

As I said earlier, let's just wait and see!

 

[UNG]

Course not, they'll change the colour, throw throw a few typos and 1 bit of information thry forgot last time around and they'll call it "new and improved'

At Elex Bolton last week it was mentioned that some typos and errors had slipped through by one of the IET people { spoke to.
I pre ordered the new regs at the show so just waiting for it to land on the door mat

 

[Timbo]

Well done sir!

So this article states that these are only draft proposals....

As I said earlier, let's just wait and see!

That article is dated November 2020.

 

[timhoward]

That article is dated November 2020.

Yep, to be clear I knew that when I posted the link, I was just helping someone who wanted to share that content.

 

[Simon47]

It doesn't seem to be on BSOL yet - just the 2020 consultation doc.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

But not available to read anywhere until tomorrow? I think I'll just wait for Buzz to explain it to us.

All most of us want to know is after lots of speculation, what does regulation 421.1.7 actually say about AFDDs.
And then we probably have 6 months to sell as many sensibly priced consumer unit upgrades as possible before things get truly silly...!

That's easy. You don't need to wait till tomorrow...
" AFDD's may or may not need to be fitted in all new and replacement consumer units. If you choose to omit the AFDD, a risk assessment needs to be carried out so you can prove to your assessor that you pretended to give it careful consideration. In addition, please read the following 17 pages regarding when to install an AFDD. You will then need to spend a further 3 years discussing the ambiguity to gain further understanding".

 

[timhoward]

And the answers arrive...

 

[timhoward]

Quick summary from video above:
AFDDs only required in:
-Higher risk residential buildings
-HMOs
-Purpose built student accommodation
-Care homes
Less consumer unit labelling needed, "handover pack" instead
IR tests of circuits with sensitive equipment required to be 500v with sensitive equipment disconnected, then 250v with equipment connected
RCD testing simplified to x1 on AC setting, for both waveforms. x5 test not required.
Basically don't use type AC RCDs
SPD risk assessment ditched - all installs need one unless home owner 'declares' they understand risks and don't want one.
Protected escape routes in new buildings have restrictions on services running above them
Simpler model forms
Sockets in bathrooms can be 0.5m closer bath now (3m changed to 2.5m)!!
Earth rods are now "recommended" for TNCS supplies.

 

[kropaske]

And here is the pdf version from certsure...

You can even test your knowledge with little quiz at the end

 

[Simon47]

No prizes for this one, what do people think will be done by a typical consumer with a handover pack ?
a) Read it carefully and store it safely so it can be found any time it's needed.
b) Chuck it in the nearest drawer (or other "place where stuff goes to die") and then chuck it out when tidying out the drawer because it's full.
c) Just chuck it out straight away.
d) Use it in the cat's litter tray.
e) Something else

 

[Simon47]

I recall commenting on this during the consultation. In the wider world, "prosumer" has a long established and well entrenched meaning. Now the wiring regs refer to the "prosumer".
So do we think that JPEL/64 were careful to avoid causing further confusion for Joe Public

 

[Simon47]

And here is the pdf version from certsure...

You can even test your knowledge with little quiz at the end

Ooh, interesting.
So they've solved the argument over sleeving a G/Y in a multicore - it's finally not allowed That's going to pee off a lot of plumbers when their installations fail an EICR
And in a real WTF moment, DC +ve is changing back to RED (finally some sense) except when it's blue. DC -ve becomes white except when it's blue. So DC circuits could be red/white, red/blue, blue/white, or red/blue/white