Any good resources/videos for 3 phase or industrial stuff?

[Electrics]

Do a proper apprenticeship mate nothing like it for learning the ropes.

Would give my left nut to but i'm 34 mate, nobody will touch me.

18 years in the building trade renovating houses top to bottom including electrical work, own tools, insurance, van, clean licence, 5 year CSCS card, own PPE, drive and motivation to succeed. But for some reason i get rejected for every apprenticeship i apply for and they give it to 16 year olds who stand on their phone watching TikTok all day and don't really care about electrics.

What can you do!

With me having over 5 years experience of wiring stuff up (just the basics, mind) i could technically do the 'experienced worker route' but i want to have that proper underpinning knowledge so if no apprenticeship turns up i'm gonna stick with the current plan of going to college to do the level 2 and 3 EAL so i can hopefully get work as an 'improver' or 'mate' to build up a portfolio and learn off some more experienced guys.

I mean i know how running cables, MCB's, RCD's, RCBO's, cable sizing, outside lights, downlights, cookers/hobs/bonding etc all works in principal and i can carry it out safely but i'm not confident enough because i've not been shown the 'proper' way to do it all. I get the same result but the process is probably different - anyone watching me would probably go 'why you doing it like that?!'.

 

[nicebutdim]

Would give my left nut to but i'm 34 mate, nobody will touch me.

18 years in the building trade renovating houses top to bottom including electrical work, own tools, insurance, van, clean licence, 5 year CSCS card, own PPE, drive and motivation to succeed. But for some reason i get rejected for every apprenticeship i apply for and they give it to 16 year olds who stand on their phone watching TikTok all day and don't really care about electrics.

What can you do!

With me having over 5 years experience of wiring stuff up (just the basics, mind) i could technically do the 'experienced worker route' but i want to have that proper underpinning knowledge so if no apprenticeship turns up i'm gonna stick with the current plan of going to college to do the level 2 and 3 EAL so i can hopefully get work as an 'improver' or 'mate' to build up a portfolio and learn off some more experienced guys.

Knock on doors - it's soul destroying, but you never know what might turn up if you don't ask.

I'm mid 40s (can't remember exactly) and struggled to get on a college course for 3 years as training opportunities are less numerous over here, but will finally be starting college next month on a full apprenticeship.

Once the possibility of that college place was on the cards I started looking for work and fully expected to spend the rest of my days working on domestic installations and figuring out the questions you're asking.

Turned out that one of those doors I knocked on was the right door and in the brief time since starting it has been a mix of commercial and industrial. While I might have felt at home in houses, the first week was daunting and I've felt like a 16yo in a adult's body, but I guess that's par for the course. There's a huge hill to climb and I could end up booted out on my backside, but right now I'm feeling exceptionally lucky to have found work with decent people in a decent firm - the onus is now on me to work hard and prove my worth, while studying and hopefully getting decent results from those endeavours.

There is work out there - good and bad. While some companies will only take on apprentices/trainees at a young age, others will have a different view for various reasons. No idea why this particular company decided to take a chance and give me a start, but I can't tell you how grateful I am that they did. Get out there and start asking. Swallow any pride you might have and be prepared for knockbacks. One point I will make is that I didn't asked for anything beyond the opportunity to start working in the industry, but feel I have been treated very fairly in return.

 

[rapparee]

If you're capable you could make yourself a 3 phase rig to test on, while there is no substitute for real world experience but fundamentaly it's just bigger switchgear, larger voltages and amperage and containment

A higher voltage will actually mean a lower amperage.

The big advantage of there phase is the simplicity of using 3 phase motors as opposed to single phase motors with start run capacitors etc

 

[Electrics]

Knock on doors - it's soul destroying, but you never know what might turn up if you don't ask.

I'm mid 40s (can't remember exactly) and struggled to get on a college course for 3 years as training opportunities are less numerous over here, but will finally be starting college next month on a full apprenticeship.

Once the possibility of that college place was on the cards I started looking for work and fully expected to spend the rest of my days working on domestic installations and figuring out the questions you're asking.

Turned out that one of those doors I knocked on was the right door and in the brief time since starting it has been a mix of commercial and industrial. While I might have felt at home in houses, the first week was daunting and I've felt like a 16yo in a adult's body, but I guess that's par for the course. There's a huge hill to climb and I could end up booted out on my backside, but right now I'm feeling exceptionally lucky to have found work with decent people in a decent firm - the onus is now on me to work hard and prove my worth, while studying and hopefully getting decent results from those endeavours.

There is work out there - good and bad. While some companies will only take on apprentices/trainees at a young age, others will have a different view for various reasons. No idea why this particular company decided to take a chance and give me a start, but I can't tell you how grateful I am that they did. Get out there and start asking. Swallow any pride you might have and be prepared for knockbacks. One point I will make is that I didn't asked for anything beyond the opportunity to start working in the industry, but feel I have been treated very fairly in return.

Wow amazing story, happy for you mate. Once my college place is confirmed next Tuesday i've got some plans to get out there and start really plotting a course to see if i can get work even if just for the three days i'm not at college.

If anyone in the North East (Peterlee, Durham, Sunderland, Hartlepool, Newcastle area) is watching and wants to give an older motivated learner who is already enrolled at college a shot, please feel free to DM me ?

 

[Lister1987]

A higher voltage will actually mean a lower amperage.

The big advantage of there phase is the simplicity of using 3 phase motors as opposed to single phase motors with start run capacitors etc

Probably didn't wordit right, meant to put across that generally loads are heavier amperage than what you'd find in domestic, larger MCBs and all that jazz. My bad.

 

[Lister1987]

From reading this thread it would see m that transitioning fro Dom to IND all you need to do is watch a few Youtube Vids? ludicrous

Not what I'm advocating at all Pete, I do endeavour to explain myself in that posts and while there is no substitute for hands on, you can get an idea of the sort of work watching videos, you won't learn the skills and theory; that's a different thing altogether.