Any tips on wiring 3x 2.5mm cpc's into a 13a socket?

[rewireIT]

Every time i go to do this, even with correctly fitting sleeving, it seems to be a right **********")£"$$* of a job getting all three in snugly without the sleeving riding up and making it difficult to tell whether i clamped on sleeving or copper.

Any tips for not fighting with this? It just took me like 10 minutes to put the cpc's away in a socket with a spur coming off it because i couldn't be 100% i'd got all three in correctly.

 

[LukeD]

Don't most socket plates come with 2 earth terminals these days?
I'm sure the ones we spec do.

Thats what I am thinking

 

[pc1966]

Don't most socket plates come with 2 earth terminals these days?
I'm sure the ones we spec do.

Some do, some don't.

Also the back-box terminals are often smaller so harder to get 3 wires in to make it worth doing, let along 4 as a common point. A Wago to link them and then single to socket would be easier.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Some do, some don't.

Also the back-box terminals are often smaller so harder to get 3 wires in to make it worth doing, let along 4 as a common point

See plenty old skool sparks wrap the earths under the fixing screw rather than use the box terminal

 

[rewireIT]

Don't most socket plates come with 2 earth terminals these days?
I'm sure the ones we spec do.

MK sockets, just one entry for each wire, earths in the middle. https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/uploa...dium.jpg.2847134c6b9eab17346eb6ad1c7cdd10.jpg

They're garbage.

 

[nicebutdim]

MK sockets, just one entry for each wire, earths in the middle. https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/uploa...dium.jpg.2847134c6b9eab17346eb6ad1c7cdd10.jpg

They're garbage.

Their DP socket has a 2nd earth terminal.

 

[rewireIT]

Their DP socket has a 2nd earth terminal.

It's the MK Logic Plus DP's that i've been using. Only one terminal for each wire

 

[nicebutdim]

It's the MK Logic Plus DP's that i've been using. Only one terminal for each wire

Turns out they are DP - I'd long thought K2747 was SP.

Anyway, K2746 (with outboard rockers) will have 2 earth terminals.

The only issue I have with MK accessories is that terminal entries aren't 5.5mm flat blade friendly.

 

[rewireIT]

Turns out they are DP - I'd long thought K2747 was SP.

Anyway, K2746 (with outboard rockers) will have 2 earth terminals.

The only issue I have with MK accessories is that terminal entries aren't 5.5mm flat blade friendly.

I actually prefer the look of those, will probably grab some of them in future.

 

[pc1966]

Anyway, K2746 (with outboard rockers) will have 2 earth terminals.

I think those were the ones intended for "high intergity" earthing for IT use (RFC or looped CPC with separate terminals for eacy connection so loose screw only breaks loop, not allowing anything to be CPC-free), as well as lower risk from accidentally switching off to loads by mistake. Cost a bit more though.

 

[nicebutdim]

I actually prefer the look of those, will probably grab some of them in future.

Generally a bit more expensive - probably because Screwfix don't buy them by the billion.

 

[pc1966]

The MK sockets with Wago-style clamps look interesting, got one somewhere but not actually used it yet!

 

[nicebutdim]

I think those were the ones intended for "high intergity" earthing for IT use (RFC or looped CPC with separate terminals for eacy connection so loose screw only breaks loop, not allowing anything to be CPC-free), as well as lower risk from accidentally switching off to loads by mistake. Cost a bit more though.

They are indeed.

 

[rewireIT]

I think those were the ones intended for "high intergity" earthing for IT use (RFC or looped CPC with separate terminals for eacy connection so loose screw only breaks loop, not allowing anything to be CPC-free), as well as lower risk from accidentally switching off to loads by mistake. Cost a bit more though.

Hi what do you mean by IT? Racking my brain here and can't think what you mean.

 

[nicebutdim]

The MK sockets with Wago-style clamps look interesting, got one somewhere but not actually used it yet!

Got a couple of boxes myself and they're great at taking up shelf space.

 

[rewireIT]

Got a couple of boxes myself and they're great at taking up shelf space.

Lol you're not using them?