Anyone tried these?

[overskilled]

Saw the following on Sfix's site, Not 100% sold on them, but look like a timesaver and look professional and neat not to mention keeping plaster out of boxes....Though I'm sure a plasterer out there would still manage it somehow....

2 Gang Back Box Protector Pack of 50 | Screwfix.com

 

[Richard Burns]

Do not look too bad but you could just use an old cardboard box, because you would need to cut those if you have cables coming through the grommet holes!
Better and cheaper than Yoozy boxes!

 

[amo]

Looks like a good idea. Saves you time during second fix chipping away at the bloody plasterers caking of the sockets.

 

[stigwart]

And it'll make it easier for the plasterer to just skim right over it, which is obviously annoying...

 

[Guitarist]

A bit overpriced imo.

 

[telectrix]

easiest way is to power up the cables. that'll keep the bugger's trowel out of the box. :smilielol5::smilielol5:

 

[Adam W]

I don't get it - you still have to chip away the plaster to get the cardboard out, and as mentioned the plasterer could easily just skim over the lot, meaning you have to search for the socket, which is a worse situation.
They sound like a nice idea for big sites where you have to give the guys all the bits otherwise they'll moan like hell, but if I were working on my own I'd probably use yesterdays newspaper.
That's if I read paper newspapers instead of reading the online version on my phone.
Junk mail maybe.

 

[LED Lighting]

These are fantastic, saves a lot of time, I have used them on the past 3 rewires I have done.

when 2nd fix comes along a spray bottle of water shows up the back box and with a flat screwdriver the cover comes out easy without damaging the plaster. Hit it once with back screwdriver to break plaster then stab centre and pull out.

so much better than digging out the dam plaster from the back box.
they also do these for single back boxes as well

 

[overskilled]

Teflon coat them...like to see plaster stick to them then....lol

 

[Guitarist]

Just tell the plasterer that they have to make good any over-plaster, ready for connections. Any that we have to uncover is billed to them at £35 per unit.

 

[shanky887614]

easiest way is to power up the cables. that'll keep the bugger's trowel out of the box. :smilielol5::smilielol5:

we have an understanding, if they board over it we will prospect for the sockets with a hammer:smilielol5:

they never did that again

 

[LED Lighting]

My biggest problem remains with the plasters pushing my lighting cables back up into the ceiling so I can't find them.
i have not as yet found a way around this???

 

[shanky887614]

My biggest problem remains with the plasters pushing my lighting cables back up into the ceiling so I can't find them.
i have not as yet found a way around this???

measure where light/fitting is going to be then clip it in place and coil above where celing is going to be then cut hole to measurements after boarded.


we do this with downlighters

 

[ExArmy]

My biggest problem remains with the plasters pushing my lighting cables back up into the ceiling so I can't find them.
i have not as yet found a way around this???

plasterers are thick, so it's difficult but you just have to talk to them slowly and try not to use any big words.
for downlights i always leave the cables above and take measurements as it's alot easier to get them perfectly lined up this was and it's easier for the plasterer to get the ceiling nice and flat.
but for pendants etc and single lights, you have gotta leave the cable hanging down, there is no other way so whenever they do this which seems to be too often i just don't fit the light because i can't. and when they ask why i havent fitted the light you explain it's because the plasterer is thick and has hidden the cables somewhere, get him to find them!

 

[not clever]

My biggest problem remains with the plasters pushing my lighting cables back up into the ceiling so I can't find them.
i have not as yet found a way around this???

Use a plumb line from the proposed lighting point to the floor, on the floor if wood push in a drawing pin if concrete/screed knock in a top hat masonry pin, inform customer in writing that if pins are moved or missing at 2nd fix extra cost will be incurred & no liability on your part for damage caused to plaster/ceilings while finding the cables......for second fix plumb line from the floor marker to the ceiling & cut out the hole.