approved contractor top dogs????

[RichardMoore]

I've been brought upto to think that the best electricians were all niceic approved contractors. None of this elecsa or napit ********. I often thought that most electricians would love to try and become one but it seems that most people out there just think these scheme are a rip off and choose the cheapest option to me being a approved contractor should be about being the best and most professional you can be. I recently joined this scheme and was massively dismayed at how commercial the Niceic has become. it was easy to get in as long as I paid the money. I was well prepared for the assessment trying to impress.i was all out to show what I was about the assessor I feel didn't scrintise enough but he passed me like I was just another part p Electrical Trainee. am only 28 is this the industry I love on the decline???? What can be done about its breaking my heart!!!!

 

[trev]

Still think all sparks should have to produce your jib card before anyone gets registered

Next will be "All the sheds need to be stopped selling electrical items"

 

[trev]

There's a guy I know, a member of this site who wouldn't get anything above labourer off the JIB but I know for a fact he'd leave a lot of people standing scratching their nuts.

 

[Dubbo]

When looking into which one to join they only wanted one to look at, but never went with em anyway



Doesn't round these parts, as I do work for local council housing



This old chestnut again

They wanted 2 jobs to look at when I joined

 

[Engineer54]

I have to disagree to my knowledge the NiCEIC are the only scheme that come and inspect 2 completed jobs, the other schemes let you inform LABC and then sign them of when you pass your assessment that make it easier for people to join, just my opinion

What don't you agree with??

Getting registered as an ''Approved Contractor'' was at one time a big deal, and quite a lengthy process, ....it's not now!! A case in point is highlighted above, you would NEVER hear or see of a one man band at the age of 21 ever being registered as an approved contractor!! Just by definition, it would be highly unlikely that he could ever meet, what was then the full criteria to gain that status!!

 

[Knobhead]

Still think all sparks should have to produce your jib card before anyone gets registered

Why ? ? ?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Why ? ? ?

TONY ...... it's 2-35 am.

Switch off and go to bed NOW ..... you are depriving yourself of much-needed beauty sleep !!!

 

[Knobhead]

Geordie, much needed as my sleep is needed, it just doesn’t happen.

 

[Engineer54]

Why ? ? ?

I think he means that you ''NEED'' the meaningful foundation qualifications (2360/2330/or whatever the current equivalent G&G is now) and the all important experience to obtain a journeyman JIB electrician/approved electricians card. Not just the add-on 17th ed Qualification. It'll not be the cover all solution though, as industrial electricians and the like wouldn't hold such JIB cards.... But it'll be a good start!! lol!!

 

[ttsucks]

I think that being registered is a good thing overall. However that said, I haven't had a single job from being on the elecsa site, the electrical safety register or trustmark. People don't know about them. If it was pushed as much as gas safe it might just be of some benefit to everyone instead of being an extra tax on my scant enough earnings!!!

 

[ttsucks]

Just saw the post about JIB Cards.
Producing your jib card in order to get registered isn't a bad idea. Except for those of us who did an indentured apprenticeship many years ago before the jib got to say who can do what and who can't. I've got my own issue with them as they will not upgrade my card from installation electrician to approved electrician . This is because they no longer recognize the 2400. Apparently I have to go and take more qualifications I don't need. Pay more money.....yet again. Even though I have the c course on top of that. Progress eh

 

[Knobhead]

It makes sense for the contracting sector, not for the industrial side for things.

The JIB has never been recognised within the companies I’ve worked for. You were required to provide evidence of you’re training to be employed.

 

[Guest55]

however , the JIB do have the nearest thing to a national competency register that thoroughly assesses the quals / experience of all its members.
and there are many that support the creation of a UK electrical licencing system to replace the flimsy part p set up we have now , which the JIB would be better placed to impliment rather than nic , napit , L.A. et all.
just a thought..........

 

[7029 dave]

in days long gone by,niceic would not even consider you for registration unless you had been trading for at least a year.

 

[Dubbo]

What don't you agree with??

Getting registered as an ''Approved Contractor'' was at one time a big deal, and quite a lengthy process, ....it's not now!! A case in point is highlighted above, you would NEVER hear or see of a one man band at the age of 21 ever being registered as an approved contractor!! Just by definition, it would be highly unlikely that he could ever meet, what was then the full criteria to gain that status!!

The NICEIC are not Totally to blame, Part P has dragged the standards down NICEIC have had to move with it or they would have no members, in my opinion they make it a little harder to join than the others like I said you need 2 completed jobs for them the others let you do it as you go along. Yes I agree and remember when it was hard to become approved contractor now anyone can, at 21 you have lots to learn getting there in you late twenties

 

[Amp David]

Was it not the NIC who invented the term 'Domestic Installer'