Are we killing the apprenticeship route into the industry?

[High Tower]

it is crazy to let someone into your house to do electrical work after doing a six week course, i mean the course must be rubbish when you have guys willing to work for free to get EXPERIENCE, AFTER doing the course, that alone says it all! self certifing should be something a car washer does , not an electrician! Rant over

I assume you also include those of us in this that have bust their balls for 3 years completing the 2330 at college as well as doing theire 2382 and 2391??

 

[megaman83]

I assume you also include those of us in this that have bust their balls for 3 years completing the 2330 at college as well as doing theire 2382 and 2391??

well if you have completed 3 years at tech fair play too you, and busted your balls did i hear you say?

so your now admitting it was hard?

yep? 16years old and i did all those exams, NVQs, assessments , log books the lot!

hard enough i agree but i passed them as a school leaver and the following years doing my apprenticeship, and you know why it was easy for me, because i had all the drive and motivation you say that you have!

 

[High Tower]

well if you have completed 3 years at tech fair play too you, and busted your balls did i hear you say?

so your now admitting it was hard?

yep? 16years old and i did all those exams, NVQs, assessments , log books the lot!

hard enough i agree but i passed them as a school leaver and the following years doing my apprenticeship, and you know why it was easy for me, because i had all the drive and motivation you say that you have!

At no point did i ever take anything away from you guys, nor have i ever lost any of my respect for the genuinely good sparks, i have great admiration and respect for all the guys.

Busting my balls?? yes, 14 hours a day in a kitchen working till midnight most nights and then having to get up and go to collage on my day off, its a killer but i love it and i wouldnt have it any other way when the day comes and i can finally turn my back on my old trade and never set foot in a kitchen again and just be a sparks, well that will be pay day, never know i might even retun home to Ireland and create a bit of compatition for you

 

[megaman83]

i wouldnt bother theres no work here lol

 

[High Tower]

i wouldnt bother theres no work here lol

Yeah i know i was over 3 weeks ago helping finish my aunts B&B it will pick up again im sure soon.

Went up to belfast a couple of times to a few of my dads old haunts, the city is looking better than ever.

Cant see me ever going back to live, been here neerly all my life since i was a baby, im as much a brummie as i am a paddy, did consider it for a while but i have too many things to tie me here

 

[1shortcircuit]

Well guys this is one hell of a thread and before I go on I have realised that I am resurrecting a dated discussion

09-10-2009

but as I am new to the forum and just sat and read from post one I felt it would be most rude NOT to post a reply.

Firstly I would like to mention that I am starting a short course in January and I have not read a single comment on here that has deterred me.

I would like to say that I totally agree with the comments that are opposed to letting newly qualified electricians from carrying out more complicated and professional procedures.

I for one will not be jumping in with both feet and will treat the first couple of years as on site training.

Now I know for a fact that I would be an asset to most of you guys if I were to be fortunate enough to get the opportunity to work FOR you. This is solely down to the fact that I am adaptable and very hands on. I have not had an employer ever say a bad word about the quality of my work and the effort I have put in and I'm not ashamed to admit that this ranges from jobs as a cleaner (including toilets) in a Chinese restaurant many years ago, to labouring on site, putting multi tonne loads a 150 feet in the air, operating a telescopic forklift, and managing a workshop in the motor industry to list just a few.

One thing I have noticed is that it sounds like alot of the negativity has been caused due to the competition being created by these newly qualified electricians. I would like to point out though, had the Government pulled it's finger out and addressed the Apprenticeship route that you are all banging on about then your competition would in fact be far more fierce.

I also agree that the gas safe route should be applied to electrics. This hasn't stopped a friend of mine still becoming a plumber though.

I don't see why you PROFESSIONALS feel threatened though, yes you may have to sell yourselves a little more but at the end of the day YOU HAVE the qualifications AND the EXPERIENCE and surely you shall just continue to reep the benefits due to the newbies causing masses of damage ready for you to come in and put right and earn a small fortune???

PS just a note, you don't have to have attended a short course and recently qualified to appear on TV programmes like watch dog and named and shamed or whatever they are called. Wherever there is money to be made there will always be someone out there looking to exploit it further and this INCLUDES the electrical industry!


Anyway, why have I decided to spend a lot of money and enter a trade where there is NO work?

I look at it like this, it's better to spend and train now whilst the trade is on it's backside and be prepared for when the construction trade kicks off again! It will happen, you do know that right?

The way I see it, my course is likely to take 18 months to complete and a further couple of years finding my feet and gaining experience.

My Goal is to hopefully be at the stage where I can work for myself by the age of 40 and I'm 32 now.

 

[Mark.W]

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