Attempted abduction

[spary]

The problem is that these people arent scared to die and welcome death. You cant compete with that!

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[Darkwood]

Not very difficult whoose to blame is it

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You seem to have a short memory, over the last few decade many shootings and mass killings in the Western world have nothing to do with Islamic extremist, it is the case especially with far right groups and the power of social media that these are often forgotten as they promote there racist xenophobic crap, yes this event is a high probablility to be linked to extremist views (terrorists) but it is not confirmed.

-Anders Brievick - Far right Terrorist
-The guy who killed Joe Cox counciller for Batley/Spen wasn't an Islamic Terrorist
-The many mass killings in USA schools have no links to Islamic terrorists and are often disturbed students.
-Dereck Bird killed 12 in Cumbria in 2010.
-The Hungerford Massacre
-Thomas Watt Hamilton guilty of one of the deadliest mass murders in recent UK history as he went trigger happy in Dunblane school...etc etc


The list is a lot longer than Islamic terrorist attacks on western soil so with regards it is always best to wait for confirmation before hitting social media with what are in fact prejudist comments given the lack of info we still have, I pass through Birstal most days (the scene of Joe Cox murder) and been local I was bombarded on my FB and other media with anti-Islamic comments, general racist tones and pre-judgements about the event... they all quickly buried their heads when it turned out to be a local white male with links to Far Right extremist groups.
So with all respect, when such assumptions and comments are made it tends to do more damage than good especially when unfounded and found not to be in anyway linked.

 

[spary]

Funny how u mentioned islamic extremism

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[spary]

I used to work in Batley but its funny that after the cox murder how all the hate against 'Britain first' by the leftwing came out, slightly hypocritical imo

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[Darkwood]

Funny how u mentioned islamic extremism

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Why is it Funny? ... it was in direct response to your comment and what your posts implied including your earlier comment I pulled you on, blaming all Muslims / Islam is the kneejerk reaction now whenever something happens like this, if the trend was to blame Christian, Jewish or Catholic extremists then that would be what I would have put instead to make the point.

 

[spary]

Ok if this isnt a muslim thing ill say sorry

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[Darkwood]

Ok if this isnt a muslim thing ill say sorry

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You are seriously blind to the tone of your comments... 'muslim thing'? I assume you mean connected to Islamic extremism and/or radicalised views, I think you don't even realise the difference, take the Nice attack, he wasn't a practicing Muslim, he didn't go to prayers, he ate pork, had gay relationships, drank and partied etc, same with the guy in the USA nightclub shootings, yes on paper they are from Muslim families but they didn't practice or follow there religion so to say this is a Muslim thing kinda tars every muslim with the same paintbrush, in both of these incidents though they had been found to have been viewing extremist sites and in contact with them.

 

[spary]

These muslims are all from or inspired by isis. Next you'll be saying its because of western intervention in the middle east.

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[Darkwood]

These muslims are all from or inspired by isis. Next you'll be saying its because of western intervention in the middle east.

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Look up the birth of ISIS, yes there are inspired by the extreme radical views of Islam and such views have always existed long before ISIS in some form or other but what western intervention did was give rise to ISIS and bring the problem to our doorstep.

 

[spary]

What about the kurds then? Did they interfere in the middle east

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[Darkwood]

What about the kurds then? Did they interfere in the middle east

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I don't see what that has to do with this thread and we are going off topic here as it is, happy to discuss the Kurds in another thread if you wish but unclear why you brought it up, almost as though you assume my views on the matter already, I have responded to all your points in depth only to be replied to with short comment and not indepth debate, if you want to discuss on this subject further then please bring something to the table instead of quick comments and assumptions.

Apologies to GMES for sliding of topic here, partly my fault, if you wish to continue spary then like I said, please set up a thread and try bring some content into your posts as oppose to quick short comments with no real depth or foundation, Ill be happy to reference all my points I have made so far.

 

[spary]

Sorry for the short text but im multitasking and replying on phone.
Lets just leave it now then.

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[GLENNSPARK]

Firstly

The 'human rights' bill needs to go
We never needed it before...so why now?

Secondly

The 'equalities & diversities' bill also needs to go....as it's just a vehicle for expensive solicitors/lawyers to line their pockets

Once the above 2 rackets have been shut off...then we can get down to business..