Automatic Board Change?

[Crosswire]

Anyone know of a reg that says 3036 fuse boards automatically have to be upgraded?

I think 'no', but other sparks have said otherwise........

Thoughts pls....

 

[Des 56]

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...s/49387-rewirable-fuses-old-wylex-boards.html

A few opinions here

 

[robsparky1975]

utter rubbish,they dont,unless that is they look distressed like any other item of equiptment.

 

[Knobhead]

Here we go again! Old is bad, new is good. If it’s not showing any sign of stress and was installed to the then regulations, leave it alone.

Or are you siding with the rip off wide boys terrorising customers in to having work done.

 

[tony mc]

As long as they are still performing the job that they were inteded to do and are safely doing so no problem.

 

[fredrico]

As long as everything is bonded aswell.

 

[Graeme Harrold]

If it aint broken.......dont fix it............!

 

[Knobhead]

If it aint broken.......dont fix it............!

Ah, but it’s old and therefore not legal if you listen to the flyboys terror tactics.
A visual check will reveal most internal faults.
Come on, Wylex for their day they were the best we had, there wasn’t a lot of choice really, MEM I detested. The introduction of BS1361 fuse carriers was a step forward, the push button type B even better.

I was asked by friend to install a board he had bought in Germany, IEC60269 Diazed fuses. “It is from my homeland it will be good”. I refused point blank. I’ve hated the damned things ever since and I’ve worked on lots of gear fitted with them.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Anyone know of a reg that says 3036 fuse boards automatically have to be upgraded?

I think 'no', but other sparks have said otherwise........

Thoughts pls....

Why would Bs7671 give maximum Zs limits for 3036 fuses if it was not permitted to use them?......does anyone actually read the regulations before spouting this nonsense?

 

[mogga]

recently Iv had a couple where Wylex where the fuse cover has been missing ,broken and have decided to recomend replacement given the gap between bottom of cover and bottom of fuse bases /busbar Seems a shame tho as these c.u.s have lots of room and nice clear connections unlike some of the new cruddy type c.u.s

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Some of the Wylex boards have the carcase made from wood.
The NICEIC view this as being unsafe, as wood is combustible.
I guess they don't know that you can set light to plastic.

 

[telectrix]

not to mention the fumes off burning plastic.

 

[Mr.Si]

The NICEIC view this as being unsafe, as wood is combustible.
I guess they don't know that you can set light to plastic.

Why can't the NICEIC just agree with the regs and not try stipulating their own ideas?

If it's not in BS7671 or the EAWR, It has little pulling power with me, unless it's a non electrical reg.

 

[jedisparks]

Obviously it depends on the situation. If someone asks you " I have a re-wireable fusebox, does it need changing" Then the answer is no.....Unless, are they having alterations and additions to their installation? Do these alterations require RCD protection? Then quite possibly a board change is the most practical and economic way to provide compliance.

I think it's jumping the gun to assume that if someone is advising a board change, then they are trying to force people to have work done that they don't need. Each situation is different and should be assesed on it's individual merits.

Another way to approach it is to say something like "No, your fusebox dosen't have to be changed, it isn't illegal, but the modern consumer units offer a higher degree of protection and are simpler to operate".

No forcing, no lying.

 

[roukel01]

If the board is protecting sockets that can be used outdoors, then there is an argument that they require RCD protection. (best practice guide backs this up also) usually the easiest way is to swap the board.