Bad customers/clients who wont pay...

[nick182]

Hi, (im not sure if this topic should be posted here or not but im AnGrY! and i need to VENT!) my apologies before hand... anyways,

as the title suggests.

basically, we are all out there trying our damn hardest to make a living and to make ends meet...

Ive just spend a tonne of cash to get qualified over the years. I have spent a lot of hard study time with moments of frustration and bad tempers. Ive failed a few exams and have studied even harder. I have spent loads to be possibly the best i can be in order to make a decent living..

Now im an honest/hardworking/passionate electrician who simply wants to make life a little easier and safe guard people from danger. BUT i am tired after clients who refuse to pay when u have opened ur wallet to pay for materials etc..

I want to know is there a way that this can be stopped? A way of blacklisting customers or clients who refuse to pay for the work done and to stop US hardworking electricians who struggle to make ends meet to make sure that no other electrician works for them? I dont want another fellow electrician to work for the same client as i have had who previously ripped me off!!!

Ive had enough of clients continually asking for a discount.. or to come down on price.. or simply refusing to pay a cent because the bill was not under a "£100"


Well i say NOMORE! Something has to be done in order to protect our livelyhoods not only from cowboys who undercut us but from clients who just simply wont pay...

We have spent far too much money and time to get this far to be pushed around by anybody that includes the clients...

We need people like you to stand up for what you believe in (our livelyhoods) and to have these customers/clients who refuse to pay BE BLACKLISTED! meaning that no hardworking decent electrician will work for these guys no matter what...

Electricians United... lets do something about this together. I need your help! and together we can make a stand.

Do you agree?

All comments welcome. good or bad

 

[JamesBrownLive]

Go into the house and remove your materials, at the end of the day its your property which someone has effectivley stolen

That is only legally possible if you have inserted a 'retention of title' clause into your contract, and the customer has signed it.
It is also debatable if this would even be applicable as your materials will have become part of the fabric of the building. 'Retention of title' is normally best invoked when you are supplying tangible goods that are then sold on. But even then its gets complicated by you having to prove they are actually the goods you supplied.

Given that credit is now so hard to get hold of, its always worth mentioning that if they do get taken to court and the case goes against them, it will impact on their ability to get any sort of cheap credit for a good while. However, if at the end of the day they plead poverty and offer something like a fiver a week, there not really much you can do at all, as the court is likely to accept that as being OK :cry_smile:

 

[baileysufc]

A large tin of Nitromors poured over their car at about 4am, together with some expanding foam up the exhaust.
You may still be out of pocket, but I guarantee they won't be smiling :ihih:

dnt use nitromors it only damages paint and not glass . you should use acid it damages glass as well makes a nice mess .:83:

 

[WDMDL]

A large tin of Nitromors poured over their car at about 4am, together with some expanding foam up the exhaust.
You may still be out of pocket, but I guarantee they won't be smiling :ihih:

Did that some time back to someone... with one of the long-nozzle pro foam guns, and shoved a bit of 10mm microbore in for good measure.
It would start and idle lovely.... but try and drive it.... heehee!

Simon.

 

[Knobhead]

Did that some time back to someone... with one of the long-nozzle pro foam guns, and shoved a bit of 10mm microbore in for good measure.
It would start and idle lovely.... but try and drive it.... heehee!

Simon.

I like that! Now is it the micro bore first and then the foam around it?

15mm is better for a normal motorist, it will let them pull off before choking the exhaust. Try and accelerate and then your bu**ered!

Mind you with some of the little boy racers around here 22mm would be better, give them a bit more rope.

• Open car
• Sit in car
• Switch on boom box
• Start engine
• Rev the bo%%cks off it
• Reverse and try to pull a doughnut in the road
• Foot hard down and head to a blind junction

With enough back pressure the exhaust will explode! (With any luck).

I wonder how I know about that?

 

[Knobhead]

Another good one is if they’ve got a V6 or V8 with genuine twin exhausts, you choke down just one side! Talk about it running like a bag of bolts!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Did that some time back to someone... with one of the long-nozzle pro foam guns, and shoved a bit of 10mm microbore in for good measure.
It would start and idle lovely.... but try and drive it.... heehee!

Simon.

I thought it was only me who did that trick.

Just shows that great minds thing alike !!!

 

[Smugley]

It should be possible for tradesmen to supply lack of payment information to the credit reference agencies. Then, for every job you could make a credit check on the client as part of the contract, hopefully this would be mininal cost. Any future tradesman could check the credit record of every client and be told if they were a debt risk, or in fact if they'd ever cheated another tradesman.

 

[brspark]

Had a look into this and legally you cannot publish their names and if you do they can take you to court. What a load of rubbish , talk about protect the wrong doers. They don't need real grounds, so just make sure you get everything in writing and signed then small claims court.

Unbelievable system in this country

 

[JamesBrownLive]

Had a look into this and legally you cannot publish their names and if you do they can take you to court. What a load of rubbish , talk about protect the wrong doers. They don't need real grounds, so just make sure you get everything in writing and signed then small claims court.

Unbelievable system in this country

The problem is, is that there is always two sides to every story.

Whilst there are no doubt plenty of dodgy customers out there, there is also no shortage of dodgy tradesmen.
Would you like you name and credit record sullied just on the say so of some *insert tradesperson of choice*
The system would need checks and balances, and is almost certainly un-workable. It would just descend into 'he said, she said' 'the work was not up to standard' etc, etc.

As I said previously, even with the small claims court, you can win and still lose.

What would be useful, would be a cheap service where tradespeople can pay to see how credit worthy a potential customer is.
In fact I'm really surprised that this is not yet available.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Go into the house and remove your materials, at the end of the day its your property which someone has effectivley stolen, failing that call their bluff and tell them the heavys will be around

As i have stated earlier in this thread....such actions would leave the homeowner/person ordering the work without the basic neccessities of life and as such your actions could backfire on you...........

 

[derek preece]

There is some stuff on business link, I haven't had a chance to look through it properly but it might contain some useful info. Reducing the risk of late or non-payment | Business Link

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Thank you Mr. Preece.:smile5:

 

[rmaynard]

this site looks like it may help

Rate My Customers, Finally, a way to report your bad customers and let other businesses know about your experience with a customer. Rate Your Customers

Rob

 

[La Poste]

There are things like feedback on Ebay, the buyer and the seller get feedback so why not a system like that?

Here's a story that is kind of linked to this one:

Judgment day looms for 'Solicitors from Hell' website.

High Court hearing for man behind site that claims to name and shame shoddy legal practitioners.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...for-solicitors-from-hell-website-2352736.html


The Law firms really don't like it at all.

 

[JamesBrownLive]

There are things like feedback on Ebay, the buyer and the seller get feedback so why not a system like that?

Here's a story that is kind of linked to this one:



Judgment day looms for 'Solicitors from Hell' website - Home News, UK - The Independent


The Law firms really don't like it at all.

Solicitors and Lawyers are self regulated :jester:

Q: Why don't Sharks bite Solicitors?
A: Professional Courtesy