Bad Workmanship

[Brian Boyd]

Thats a sticky one. If i`m doing any work were i`m concerned i outline the extent of the installation i cover on the appropriate test certificate so as not to get caught with something i didn`t install or check over. We can`t go to every job and check absolutely everything its just not feasible or practical Sounds like handyman job as supposed to electrician job.

 

[Guest123]

Hi.

As Brian has said you need to outline exactly what you do in the extent covered box on the relevant test cert, together with any observations on the existing installation.

 

[Bobby B]

Hi i'm new,

On a re-wire at the moment and the shower has been fed from a 1way CU 40A breaker, been run outside then thru a bedroom in 10mm T&E to a pull switch inside zone 2 i think (2.1m from base of bath) on top of that its been joined in a 30A JB in the loft.

Does anyone ever alert the NIC to this as it is recent and quite dangerous?

 

[wattsup]

no one does dodgy wiring now, part p has stopped that, don't you guys listen to the news?

 

[Amp David]

I love part P

 

[wattsup]

me too, but wait while part q come in..all sparks have to go on deep sea diving courses, in case they have to change lamps in swimming pools (mp's swimming pools,moats etc)

 

[sparks72]

Went to a job last year, old 10mm shower cable had been used to supply the new underfloor heating,
still on a 50 amp mcb, new extractor fan had cover plate missing, JB's all over the place, earth had been disconnected from the bathroom lighting supply, etc, etc............building developer & his handyman!

 

[Bobby B]

no one does dodgy wiring now, part p has stopped that, don't you guys listen to the news?

Part Pointless

 

[sparks1234]

You only need to write "spare" if there is an MCB installed with no circuit connected to it.

But yes, unused ways neednt be labelled.

We did a job and we could not get any blanks for whatever reason so bunged a couple of breakers in. The sparks that normally works on that site reported us for leaving circuit breakers in a dis board that had no circuit connected!!

 

[Brian Boyd]

We did a job and we could not get any blanks for whatever reason so bunged a couple of breakers in. The sparks that normally works on that site reported us for leaving circuit breakers in a dis board that had no circuit connected!!

Can`t see anywhere this is against any regs???

Went to job there that NIE (Northern Ireland Electricity) were metering and they couldn`t get power on. Went down and found no blanks in board wall light cables not properly terminated in chalk box or equivalent and tails curled up in the c.u with temp supply still terminated. Didn`t know if all the dead tests were completed or what and if it was safe for energising. This was a new house build. It seems the ones who try to comply with the regs are punished for misdemeaners and the ones who don`t care are taken by the hand.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

My dad lives in Southern Spain. On a visit a couple of years ago we had a walk down to the local watering hole. Being the sad so and so that I am i was looking at all the Consumer units which were located outside in the gardens, this seems the norm there. However we went past what looked like a farmhouse, the CU was in a wooden mailbox with no front on it and it was nailed to a tree, there were a couple of car type jump leads connecting it to the overhead power lines, the cables came out of it and across the drive (dirt track) and went into the front door of the house, but it was OK because there were some stone slabs laid over the cables across the drive to stop cars damaging them.

God only knows what the install in the house was like.

I returned in September last year and out of curiosity i went to see if it was still the same, lo and behold there had been some inprovement done. The cables going across the drive were now in a bit of plastic pipe and further protected by some new stone slabs. He must have had a code 2 on his PIR

 

[welshmadness]

About 2 years ago, a friend asked me to hang a new curtain pole up for her (nothing to do with electric i hear you say)
Anyway, got to her house, showed me the window she wanted the curtain pole put up. No electric socket or light switch anywhere to be seen. So, i marked up the fixing holes started drilling. After 5seconds of drilling, a huge flash, bang and a face full of hot crap and all the electric off!
No doubt in my mind, a 5min job got a lot longer and i obviously hit a cable. Out with the hammer and bolster start chipping away at the wall.
Turns out i hit a lighting circuit which fed a ceiling rose in the next room which was outside of the zone and was run in the wall as it was a flat roof..........lesson learnt me thinks!

 

[djb_1983]

scary stuff, my house has a lighting cable going diagonally down a wall to a light switch with no capping, was done beore i moved in

 

[Steve1412]

me too, but wait while part q come in..all sparks have to go on deep sea diving courses, in case they have to change lamps in swimming pools (mp's swimming pools,moats etc)

You may laugh...I did one of these once in a pool full of water.....only 12v in a sealed headlight type fitting.....oooo to be an apprentice again

Changed a similar lamp in a vapour bath once too....the sparky said he would keep his coat on as it would insulate him and keep him cool.....I stripped off as far as was decent...after about five mins in there the sparky flaked out..........dont think I could get a risk sassessment, method statement or safe system of work to cover this type of work nowadays....

 

[uksel]

part p = unlimited access to all things electrical

are you part p? no...

then you're not a real electrician then are you


they've created a monster - if people are on a register for part p, i that register should also include the scope of work that person is allowed to carry out.

simples